Hi. I'm new to the group, and so glad to be here. Two months ago I was diagnosed with bladder cancer. I had a biopsy on the tumour they cut out, the results came back as a grade 3 tumour on the inside of the lining. Then I had another biopsy done, this time from the muscle surrounding the bladder, to see whether the cancer had invaded the muscle. The result was both good and bad news: the cancer had not (they believe) invaded the muscle, however they also found, and took out, a carcinoma in situ which was found in the site of the original tumour. So, both original tumour and this carcinoma were both ‘high risk’. I had that last biopsy on the 16th August. Before they begin whatever treatment is decided upon they now need to do a CT scan of my abdomen and also of my chest. This, the oncology nurses tell me is standard practice before a final decision can be made on the type of treatment I will have to prevent, hopefully, more tumours from growing. So I have what they have termed Non Invasive Bladder Cancer. The oncology nurses tell me that in their experience the treatment I will most likely have is called BSG or immunotherapy. I'm so scared. Can anyone give me any relief from my …..well, my terror, frankly, or any words you think might help? Thank you in advance, very much.
Don't worry. If you have no control, why worry? I was diagnosed with Muscle invasive and advanced bladder cancer some time ago, about 6 years I think. Had the BCG, a bit of a nuisance but no problems. I now have been fitted with a catheter as I have lost control of my bladder. Again no problem, no one knows I have the catheter unless I tell them. A good idea in some ways as I no longer have to get out of bed a couple of times a night to have a pee. You don't say how old you are, I am 87. Again I say don't worry, it will not help.
Good luck
Bob
Hi Seamoth and a welcome to the group. I am sure you will get lots of support and advice here as you go forward. Many of us have been in your shoes and know how you are feeling at the moment, but be aware, BC can be treated successfully. As your nurse says, the scans are routine to check nothing else is going on and it gives them a bigger picture of what they are dealing with. If you do go ahead with BCG treatment, this is a weekly immunotherapy treatment designed to mop up any rogue cells and help prevent recurrences. Lots of experience here, so feel free to ask anything. Best wishes.
We all quail at a cancer diagnosis, but as rily says, non invasive is very treatable, even curable (though they will never say cured). The BCG treatment is to deter/delay recurrences & may effect a cure in some cases. With CIS, which is a bit more risky for recurrence & progression, they might offer bladder removal as an option.
I had the choice, age 56, and opted for surgery. It sounds very daunting but many here have had it, so if that is your path, plenty of support to help you through. Try to find distraction in some pleasurable activities while you wait for the next steps. Very best wishes.
Hi Tesswill. Thanks for your reply, which was so informative and comforting. I'm certainly hoping that I don’t have to have my bladder removed, but from your post it seems it is less daunting than perhaps I thought. I'm 75 and not sure how my old body would cope with that. Anyway, maybe the BSG treatment will be given a chance and might be the answer for me.
Hi and welcome Seamoth.
My husband is now 78 and what we are certain was a recurrence of earlier bc was only found 5 years ago due to getting too bothered with getting up in the night. It didn't even get treated all that promptly then, as the NHS tried to farm him out to private but they bounced him back. But despite having a similar combination of papillary and CIS "high risk" to you, he is now down to 6 monthly checkups and has avoided surgery. As Teasswill did, some people actually prefer surgery but my husband really didn't want that. He was given some BCG [it counts as immunotherapy] and had a recurrence straight away. We did not then know - found out on here later - that for many people this does not mean BCG has 'failed' just that you need many more goes of it. So offered 'an equal choice' between more BCG, bladder removal, or Mitomycin, he went for that. It's worked really well for him . Yes everyone is different but I hope you can now breathe more freely and be less terrified. Especially considering the similarity in your ages.
best wishes,
Denby
Thanks Denby, thats very interesting. I’m not sure I quite understood……did your husband have Mitomycin after trying BCG, and was it that that worked so well for him? I will try to find out more about Mitomycin, as I haven’t heard of it. Thanks again for your post.
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