Suicidal

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I have been diagnosed Bladder cancer stage 4.

I am starting chemo next week to last 3 months, with bladder removal in January. My chances of cure have been given at 50%.

My wonderful wife has been so supportive, but initially blocking out the chance of my death or even of having cancer, the possability is now coming to her.  From yesterday she has started panic attackes, shaking, short fast breaths, crying & being sick. The GP has prescribed beta blockers but we have not yet got the pills.

We moved to a remote location in Scotland just a few months before the virus, we know very few people. My wife cannot drive, although I have just bought her a car & am teaching her. She confided in me yesterday that she is planning suicide if I die. She does nto want to live without me. I do not want this. I have worked hard my whole life to give her a nice house in wonderful Scottish highlands.She is not close to her family, we have no friends in our new location & she will not phone Samaritans or Macmillan.

I do not know what to do, but typing this is my first step to try to help her.

  • Thank you. It will be very difficult to get her to contact someone.

  • Hi Coojee,Do you think your wife would be willing to read the messages on here ?Jane 

  • Hi,

    All you can do is try and the moment that's very hard.

    In hope

    It doesn't matter where you go, there you are
  • I think she would be angry & upset that I talked out her.

  • Hi

    I can understand that, but you have your limits.

    It doesn't matter where you go, there you are
  • Poor you Coojee, I hope that as well as us lot out in cyberspace there is someone like a nurse at the hospital, or MacMillan drop-in at the hospital, or someone face to face, that you can talk to for support for yourself with such stress and having to tiptoe around your nearest and dearest just as you embark on your chemo, with surgery ahead.

    It does occur to me, your wife would definitely be entitled to be seen as your carer with what you are dealing with. This opens the door to a Carer's Assessment [legal entitlement] to see how her needs as carer might be helped. I guess from what you have indicated money is probably thankfully too good for any means tested benefit entitlement. But if eg your wife is under pension age but caring for you 20+ hours per week and not earning, there is Carer's Credit to pay her NI so her pension is not reduced. And more importantly she might get invited to carers' chit chats etc depending on the locality. This would be simply based on the situation re you, rather than implying she is not coping. Maybe that would be acceptable to her?? If you want to check this out, try searching [County you live in] Carers' Association. They do vary from area to area.

    Still thinking of you both, Denby

  • Hello Coojee. Just read. I am really sorry. Stage 4 is advanced. But as with all cancers much depends on so many factors and statistics are just that: statistics. Even being stage 4, there are people who survive more than 5 years. Although there is no hard evidence of this, a positive attitude certainly helps a lot. Be positive. You are going to be alive for more time. I really hope that you and your wife will be able  to adjust and make the most of the time you will have together, because you will have more time. And as someone else said, they would not have proposed bladder removal if they thought that was for nothing. (putting someone through such an invasive operation ...?).. If they were sure that all hope is lost, they would have just done some "palliative treatment" (which by the way doesn't necessarily mean the end is near...). Stage 4 is "the cancer has come out of the bladder" But how far, whether it has invaded lymph nodes they might not now exactly. I have a dear friend who had bowel cancer, invasive, 75 y old. She was operated 2 years ago and is still with us. Please, be positive. And talk to us, MacMillian, people who know perfectly what you are going through.

    Big hugs to you and your wife

    Marco

  • Thank you Denby

    I had to phone the chemotherapy ward today to get an appointment time for tomorrow. It was difficult to get through, but I eventually got to them. They asked me to get there for 9am & that I would be there until 5pm. I asked if my wife could sit with me & they said no. My wife could not sit in the car park all day long & we are both isolating. When I told her she had to stay home. She was devastated & I was concerned about her home on her own. So I rang the oncology nurse who said I may not be able to drive afterwards.  creating problems for us. So I rang the Mac centre who kindly offered that my wife could stay there all day. I am so relieved. I think they have people there & hope my wife will talk to them. 

  • We are both off work now on universal benefit. My wife has fibromyalgia.bi cannot do my self employed work.  The money for the car came from my cashing in my meagre self employed pension.