Hi Everyone
Could anyone please enlighten me on what the usual procedure would be for follow up after bladder removal?
Although I’ve had my bladder removed, I didn’t have bladder cancer and it was just a part of larger surgery so would be different for me, but I had regular contact from my CNS and surgeon by phone initially to check on me, give me pathology results etc. The reason I ask is that my fil had his bladder and prostate removed on 1st September. Since then, he has had no contact from the hospital other than to book a scan for November. He was discharged from hospital on the basis he could wash his face and had eaten a bowl of mash, less than 2 weeks after surgery. It took weeks to even get a stoma nurse to visit at home. He keeps phoning the hospital and leaving messages but no-one calls back.
He is declining very rapidly, fecally incontinent, unable to eat, swallow properly, taste, walk. Yet no-one will help. His wife has dementia so cannot cope. The hospital will not see him unless my partner takes him to A&E but he cannot get to the car, far less sit for hours in A&E. The gp surgery is sending a paramedic out but not till late this afternoon. An ambulance will not come because it’s not urgent enough!
Should he have had a post surgery follow up before now? A scan? Can anyone help with any info please?
Sarah xx
Hi Sarah,This is awful and not right at all.I don’t understand why they cannot send an ambulance surely not being able to eat or walk is reason enough.I had weekly phone calls from the recovery nurse for the first few weeks but nothing after that.I do think the follow care leaves a lot to be desired.My care was passed back to the local hospital.I get the occasional phone call and scans.I contacted social services and they arranged care for mum which although I was loathe to do was invaluable as I really couldn’t have looked after her.What about PALS ? This really is not good enough.I hope the paramedic can help,Love Jane xxx
Paramedic came far earlier than we were told, and said there was nothing drastically wrong with him-is he blind? Social care have done an emergency referral today for my mil to get respite care, but have said they both need help. Previously, social work assessors said there was no help available. What an absolute mess this is. Nothing joined up between services and zero help. The hospital said to take him to A&E. It’s 1.5 hours away and we cannot even get him out to the car, far less have him sat in A&E for hours. He is skin and bone now and gravely ill. this is an incredibly difficult time and he thinks himself he won’t make it. Just a disgrace.
Our experience of PALS is unfortunately not positive but I suspect we will go down that road. Thank you Jane-seems follow up care in general is not as good as it could be, but this is now an acute situation.
Sarah xx
I had one paramedic who was not very helpful as he was about to finish his shift.I said I was not happy and he reluctantly sent for another crew.When they arrived they were disgusted he had left.They took one look at mum and said pack a bag for her and rushed her straight as she was vomiting blood.
We are waiting till 2pm-the paramedic said he was reporting back to the gp surgery so allowing time for that, then I think it’s got to be 999. He needs rehydrating and his bowel issues investigated. The way he is now, this cannot wait beyond today.
I’ve been admitted by ambulance twice myself and had the most lovely paramedics who were so kind. I’m sorry you had an unhelpful one. One crew was just about to go off shift when my call came in but they were here within 10 minutes. On each occasion it’s been a necessary admission-a pulmonary embolism and a life threatening bacterial infection when my bile duct blocked. I was very grateful they were so thorough and got me straight to hospital.
I hope we can get something organised this afternoon. He needs to be in an ambulance not our car-that’s impossible.
Sarah xx
Absolutely Sarah and he needs specialist help.It’s upsetting to think of your father in law being in this situation.It is disgraceful of the hospital not to answer messages but as you say nothing is joined up and the communication is usually dire.How worried you all must be.We have always had lovely kind paramedics except for two.They do a difficult job and I can’t praise them highly enough as they always looked after us so well.I’m keeping everything crossed that your fil can get some help.I had a lot of fecal leaking post op but obviously if it’s very severe it will need investigating.xxxx
Hi Jane
Still no help as yet. GP surgery promised to call back, but didn’t. Social care chap hasn’t yet called back either. I hate to think how ill you need to be to get help nowadays. Fil has slept this afternoon and says he feels a little better but who knows if that’s really true. He doesn’t like a fuss.
We’ll wait to see what the morning brings now. We clearly cannot access any support today. Very stressful all round. Thank you for always being so supportive.
Sarah xx
Oh Sarah,It’s unbelievable that no one has got back to you.Mum never liked to make a fuss either but sometimes I had to step in and insist we got some medical help.It’s not that long since your fil had his op and really as it’s major surgery you would think the medics would take his health seriously.Infections can often cause people to be unsteady or unable to walk.Usually paramedics will take someone in if they cannot walk,this happened with mum on several occasions.Let us know how it goes.I would call an ambulance if things get worse before tomorrow.I hope you can get some help tomorrow if not sooner.Thinking of you all.Love Jane xxxx
Hello Sarah, just want to back what Jane says. I know FiL doesn't like drama and nor do you. But I suspect you won't be sleeping much tonight. The thing is, if you call 999 in the middle of the night, I have a sneaking suspicion [with a little experience] you actually tend to get better attention, sooner, than during the day or evening.
Sending supportive virtual hugs,
Denby
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