My mum deserves a right to fight this!

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Mum was diagnosed with bladder cancer in June 2020. She had the tumours removed followed by a 6 week course of radiotherapy (1 blast per wk). We were warned that by weeks 4/5 & 6 that she would be extremely poorly and probably need someone to stay with her. Mum asked at that consultation, before radiotherapy started “ how will you know if they’ve grown back”? The consultant said “ you’d start to feel unwell again! Mum breezed through the op to remove tumours and the 6 weeks course of radiotherapy. Then In Sept, she started struggling to pee so her Dr prescribed antibiotics. No sooner did she finish one course, she was given another, and another and so it goes on till this day!  The not-peeing was getting worse. She was up through the night 8-12 times struggling to pee and in absolute agony, to the degree she was nearly passing out and laying on the bathroom floor but still the Dr just gave antibiotics. I got her to a hospital and they drained over 2 and half pints of urine. No wonder she was in agony, and inserted a permanent catheter which is giving her relief.
In Jan 2021, mum got a stabbing pain in her back and taken to hospital with suspected blood clot on her lung. 6 hrs later she was told the cancer had spread to her lungs. Her Dr told us it was highly unlikely it had spread from her bladder to her lungs yet another consultant said that’s where it had come from! This is what I loath, when one tells you one thing and another says the opposite! I put this here because we are experiencing this a lot now  


Fast forward to Fri 12th Feb. A tele consultation with her Dr to ask why mum isn’t being given a single solitary thing to combat the cancer in her lungs (diagnosed 5 was ago) or check if the cancer in her bladder has got worse. He told us they can’t offer anything to treat the cancer in her lungs as it could make her feel worse and they have to weigh up the benefits of quality of life over quantity of life. And went on to say the reason she can’t pee is probably due to tumours in her bladder blocking her urinary tract (but no offer to do another scan).
I cannot accept that my poor mum has basically been told to sit at home and let these cancers ravage her body. She’s not on fast track palliative care for end of life so I want a second opinion. Why wouldn’t they do 3 monthly scans to check on mums bladder cancer?! Is this normal? And why is my poor mum not being offered anything to help stem the cancers? Her best friend has cancer much worse than mum, same age and she’s getting lots of treatment. 
I cannot accept no offer of treatment for mum, she even asked if he could give her something to help boost her energy levels as she feels tired a lot, but he couldn’t suggest anything. I’m beginning to wonder if he’s actually medically trained! Surely there’s something she can take!  
Mum feels totally let down right now. If she had COVID she would be given more attention than what she is right now. Cancer is Cancer is Cancer, regardless of age and stage... she’s my mum,,, she might just be a name and NHS number to others but she’s my mum... and deserves a right to help fight this... right now, that’s been denied. 
Has anyone else been given regular check ups after bladder surgery or radiotherapy or is this normal practice  to be left... because in my opinion of mums experience to be told “we’ll know if it’s grown back when you start to feel unwell again”  is too late!!!!

  • Hi there, so sorry to hear about the horrible time your mum has been having. It sounds like you haven’t been given clear information about her cancer. In my case in December 2017 a consultant told me the stage and grade of my bladder cancer after it was first removed (grade 2, stage T 1, non-muscle invasive) and outlined my treatment options. I was introduced to my CNS (clinical nurse specialist) at that time. Since then my CNS has been my first contact for any concerns I have had, and given me advice and guidance.  Although I have seen many different doctors at each stage of my treatment, my CNS has been consistent and I trust her to be fully informed and honest about my treatment. In your mum’s situation I’d be definitely be asking for greater clarity, and potentially a second opinion also. Glad she has you to support her. Sending love. x

  • Hello Herothedog. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to me. X

    My poor mum hasn’t been given a single check up or any further scan since having the tumours removed in June last year. The post op letter said it wasn’t muscle invasive and  stating T3/T4 but no grading on the letter from what I could see. I keep seeing on this forum the word BCG. No idea what it meant till I’ve just done further research on here... mum wasn’t given any BCG ... and certainly no clinical nurse specialist. I’m phoning her Dr tomorrow to request a follow up scan on her bladder and 2nd opinion on the “no treatment “ for the cancer in her lungs. 
    on behalf of my mum and I, please keep well and I hope you are doing okay. xxx

  • Hi, So sorry to hear about your mum, you must be feeling so helpless in this situation. When your say her Dr do you mean her GP or the hospital doctor. She should certainly still be under the hospital and I would have thought getting regular consultations. It may be worth ringing the consultant’s secretary to try and arrange a consultation or at least find out what is going on.

    Best wishes Luce x

  • If you feel the hospital is not acting to your satisfaction, it is also worth contacting the PALS department of the hosp. They can act as an intermediary to resolve such issues. 

    Hard as it is, sometimes it is the best course to accept that there is no appropriate treatment other than palliative care. If that is the case, then your Mum should be referred to a specialist team. Perhaps also enquire if there is a local cancer support service to help both you & your Mum. Best wishes for what is obviously a difficult situation.

  • So sorry you are both going through this ...I have just had turbt operation and go back on Tuesday to see consultant and find our result of biopsy taken ..please get in touch with hospital tomorrow  Hearthere must be something that can be done ..with covid here so much other illnesses are not being dealt with as they should ..please stay strong and just keep supporting your lovely mother as best youFingers crossedcan xx hope you get some positive answers tomorrow thinking about you take care xxFingers crossed

  • Hi Luce, yes I mean her GP. She has never received any follow up consultation from the urology dept at hospital since they removed the tumours last year. Last words to mum before she had surgery and after the radiotherapy were “she’ll know if it’s come back when she starts being poorly again”.  And now it’s spread, I don’t believe she should have been left with no 3 or 6 month scan-something doesn’t feel right to me. 
    Thank you for the advice, it’s on my list of calls to make tomorrow x

  • Thank you for your advice. It really is appreciated that you’ve taken time out of your day to help me and my mum xxx

  • Awww,,, your lovely words and support are so appreciated. Especially given what you are going through yourself x 

    I truly hope you are given good news with your biopsy results xxxx

    You stay strong too and with all the advice others have given on this forum, it will hopefully help you. I wish I had known about this forum earlier, then my mum wouldn’t be falling through the cracks.. although in mums case.. more like the Grand Canyon! 
    I’ll do all I can to keep my mum safe and live a good life whilst she can and if we can get medical support with that, then that’s what I’ll be requesting. 

    Good luck for Tues xxxxx

  • Take care xx thank you for your concern Kissing heart we need all the help and advice we can have during these times don't we? I really hope your mother is not in a lot of pain now xx hopefully something will be sorted out for you both and you can go forward with best treatment and meditation xx take care xx

  • Hi I LOVE MY Mum, I’m so so mad reading your post, first I should definitely see about changing doctors, then phone up the hospital and get the name of your mums CNS (cancer nurse specialist) or sometimes it’s a Macmillan nurse either way you should have someone who you can phone anytime. I think your mum should have had flexi scopes every so often like 3 or 6 months, you don’t go with the idea “if it hurts it’s come back” . I don’t think it’s T3/4 like your saying more like that’s the grade if it was T3 it would be muscle invasive. I think you and your mum needs some answers and feel you’ve been let down by both the GP and hospital I’d definitely get in touch with PALS at your hospital. I’m 8 years clear and still having  6 monthly checks and most likely will for life. I had BCG for grade 3. Feeling so sorry for your mum.xx

    Sue Xx