Newly diagnosed, just saying hello.

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Hello, I'm AdaJay [actually my grannies,  I'm just yet another Maggie]. After an urgent GP referral I had an op to fit a stoma and take biopsies at the beginning of October.  Apparently a lot of scarring from previous ops caused problems so I had a transverse colostomy.  It has/is taken some getting used to but not feeling like I'm sitting on knives all the time is worth it. Last week saw the surgeon for the biopsy results and I  have a basal cell cancer and need an APR. They'll probably move my stoma too. I don't yet know what other treatments I might need. I did have questions ready beforehand,  but I blathered on about the stoma issues and, having forgotten to bring my list, completely blanked and didn't even ask what stage the cancer is or, well anything. I daresay I can ask at the next appointment, which will presumably be sometime after this Friday when they've had chance to discuss it. Apparently it's an unusual kind and the surgeon may be sending me to another surgeon in another hospital with more experience of it. Trust me to be awkward?!  Feeling a little bit in limbo. Joining here is me trying to be proactive and not wibble. Up until now everything seemed to happen really fast , with little time to overthink. 

Update 

Finally got some more information from the Bowel Cancer Nurse.  I am T2 N0 M0 but they will be checking out my chest again sometime in December/January because of 'a few nodules ' - this is the first I've heard of them. Apparently the results of the team meeting were that I should have radiotherapy and chemotherapy first... no update on the surgery as yet.

The only relevant study I've been able to find on this kind of cancer is a meta-analysis from Taiwan which found no difference in outcomes between those who had radio/chemotherapy to those who had surgery alone, which I found reassuring at time of reading, despite it being still based on only around 124 patients, so not generalisable. More fool me. 

I'm pretty scared now. Some people here seem to suffer terribly from these treatments. A big part of me wants to refuse, but I know that's foolish, I'm just scared. It helps so much to just be able to admit that.

I'm more grateful to all of you and this site than ever. 

Thank you xxx

  • Hi Adajay

    i too had APR surgery last October and a permanent stoma. It is a big surgery and it knocked me out for the first couple of weeks but I made a gradual and good recovery. I was very careful about not sitting down, always going from one side to the other for several weeks. I found after showering I would use a jug of salty water (like when you have a baby) which was very soothing and then a hairdryer to ensure my wound was dry and everything healed very well. So this obviously worked well for me.

    I had one lymph node affected but obviously this was removed with the APR surgery. I did have some chemo but couldn’t tolerate it as I developed severe diarrhoea so was advised to stop it. 
    Unfortunately in August my op developed a hernia underneath which I am now waiting to have repaired, this is in fact the most difficult part of my journey but I’m hopeful of its successful repair.

    I’ve had no problems with my stoma, I would have liked more support from my community stoma nurse regarding what I could eat etc as it seemed all the fruits, veg and salad I love were not on the menu! However I’ve just gradually introduced them and now there’s not much I don’t eat. 
    I’m really wishing you all the very best, my diagnosis and op was such a shock as all along I was told there wasn’t a problem even when I had a polyp removed. I was told it looked benign so I it was a huge shock and hard to process. 
    Try to take things as easy as you can before your surgery and treat yourself, anything that takes your mind off things even for a short while is great. 
    Sending lots of love and positive thoughts Evadaisy

  • Thank you so much for sharing your experience and tips ing further problems and hope you can get treatment for the hernia soon.

    I am very much with you on missing my veggies, especially my greens! Stewed pears and apples have proved useful in keeping things running smoothly stoma-wise, but likely to get boring. i'm going to miss sprouts season altogether- definitely not recommended for a new stoma. 

    I thought I just had bad haemorrhoids,  like my Dad. They kept offering me anusol, which was useless; so I stopped asking about it.

    I don't feel like I have information yet, so appreciate this all the more, thanks again. I'll be thinking of you and hoping you get that hernia sorted as soon as may be, hugs Maggie xxx

  • Hi Maggie 

    Thank you for your reply I hope you’re sleeping well and not feeling too anxious. I must admit it all felt very unreal at the time as you are trying to take in so much information. 
    I’m sure over the next days, weeks there will be a plan put in place for you and you will be able to ask any questions you have with your team. 
    I had the usual CT, MRI and PET scans prior to my surgery. Then a period of limbo while I was waiting for my surgery. I was in hospital for 12 days. Once home I was soon able to potter round and felt so much better. 
    Please keep in touch, it’s not a common surgery and it’s lovely to hear others positive journeys. If you would like to ask anything about mine please do. 
    Sending love and a big hug

    Evadaisy

  • Thanks so much  , I really appreciate it.  Sorry I haven't replied sooner,  I've been getting a bit low chasing more information and not getting it; also having issues with the stoma, which thankfully seem to be resolved... we'll see. Maggie x

  • Maggie

    It is totally understandable that you are scared, and also that you want to refuse treatment.  BUT this is the best, and probably only chance of ridding you of this horrible disease.  You aren't alone, all of us here have been through it or are going through it and are here to tell the tale.  One small blessing that you have is that you already have a colostomy so won't suffer the painful bowel movements that go hand-in-hand at the end of the radiotherapy.  And the side effects don't all come at once, it is probably around the end of week three that you will start to notice, and it really is a very gradual thing.  And I remember at an early check-up after treatment the oncologist said the nodules in your stomach haven't changed, and my heart missed a few beats.  She reassured me and said if they were to scan everyone, they would find nodules that are mostly harmless, so I am hopeful it will be exactly the same for you.

    Sending you a big hug.

    Irene xx

  • Thanks  I won't refuse, but the instinct to run from this is strong isn't it?! I hadn't considered the stoma an advantage and  that helps.

    I was on methotrexate about 10 years ago  low dosage for rheumatoid arthritis and didn't cope well with it. So, despite horror stories about burning bottoms , it's the chemo that was worrying me most.

    Thank you so much, you've helped me concentrate on the necessity and made it feel more manageable.  Maggie 《3 x

  • Hi Maggie

    So sorry to hear you’ve been feeling low. I’m sure youll feel better when you know more. I so hope your stoma is ok now?Are you any nearer having a plan for your treatment going forward? I didn’t have any radiotherapy as the APR  surgery was deemed enough. I was really apprehensive about chemo but started it and it wasn’t as bad as I thought but after my first course I developed severe diarrhoea and my oncologist said she didn’t think I should continue with it. Of course I was relieved i but terrified too. 
    Are you to have any treatment prior to your surgery? I so hope a plan is in place for you very soon, I think then you’ll find that you can plan and begin to look forward, past the surgery and any treatment. 
    This time of year can make things seem more difficult too I think. I found the short days very depressing and longed for the spring. In fact I hung on to the thought of spring with longer days, sunshine and watching everything come into bloom, imagining sitting in the garden with a coffee just kept me going. (Yes sitting!!) Try to just take one day at a time and treat yourself to anything that makes you happy. You deserve it!  You will get there. 
    Sending love and a big hug. 
    Evadaisy