Hi everyone
My husband is now 8 weeks post surgery for what we were told was T4 rectal cancer, has had his rectum removed and closed and a permanent stoma fitted. We went back to the hospital today to see the consultant who did the surgery and were told the great news that no further treatment is needed. They have removed the tumour, lymph nodes and a section of the bowel. The consultant then went on to tell us that when they sent what they had removed off for testing the results have come back as the tumour "only" being a T1 not the T4 we were told which led to the huge surgery that he has had done. He said there is obviously a huge discrepancy between T4 and T1, that they would be looking in that and that, and did we understand what they were saying? He said that the operation for a T1 would have been considerably smaller and not as invasive, with no need for a stoma, but that there was no guarantee that it would not have led to what my husband had done anyway. We have left the hospital a little confused to be honest, was he saying that whoever read the scans read them that badly that my husband had a much worse operation and a permanent stoma fitted when he didn't need to? That's what it seemed like to us. What he has been through has been horrific and progress after the operation has been slow, with infections, wounds not healing and he still cant yet sit without a special cushion. The wound underneath still has not fully healed and he is still leaking fluid. Fully aware that it could have been worse if it had been the other way round but I wondered if anyone else had experience anything like this?
Morning all, bit of a rough weekend mentally over all this as its obviously praying on our minds over what to do next. We have contacted PALS about it in the first instance, and await an advocate to come back to us to discuss further.
I'm so sorry you've got to deal with this on top of your husband's challenges, but I'm really glad you're following up. Both for your own sakes and for others who will benefit from this being called out.
Hugs
Suz
Hi everyone - we are now 11 weeks post surgery today, not an awful lot to report health wise, the dripping continues and the wound still hasn't closed up. Mentally my husband is drained, as am I. Hubby obviously still off work and I am working from home 70% of the time and going into the office for a few mornings a week and continuing to work from home. We did manage to get away for a night on Saturday though which was great to be able to leave the house. But hubby had a challenging time using a disabled loo for the first time, where a woman tapped him on the shoulder asking what he was doing and what was his disability as he doesnt look disabled? He asked what hers was, and she got all uppity stating you cant ask me that! Erm?? It ended with him showing her his stoma bag and she shut up. I hope its not always going to be like this.
In other news we have submitted our complaint to the hospital and await their comments, and have contacted a solicitor this morning to see if anything can be done and were told that we have to wait and see what the hospital say first. I have also arranged some counselling for hubby through this website and he is having his first session today. Hopefully this will help, he doesn't want to talk to me about things at the moment and when I try to talk to him he is closing me down. I feel like I am on a one woman crusade to sort things out, and I feel our relationship has changed over the last few months. He did say he couldn't have done any of this without me, but then in the next sentence telling me he doesn't want to go on for the rest of his life like this.
That's all for now lovely people
x
Hello Mrs. Washington,
thank you for the update. I'm so pleased that you are taking the necessary, albeit exhausting, steps to having the pain and suffering you are both going through dealt with.
And, it's not all about the unnecessary surgery, or the lengthy recovery, or, the lifelong impact on both your lives, or the loss of the ability for both of you to work and live full and productive lives, or the exhaustion of being both a career, supporter, and bread winner - it's also about the depression, the alienation, the public humiliation, and the changes to your marital relationship - both physical and psychological.
I have also been publicly humiliated by asking for access to the disabled toilet in my local grocery store and having the cashier repeat in a loud voice, "YOU WANT TO USE THE DISABLED TOILET??!!??" and then take having her take her sweet time getting the key (meanwhile I'm barely holding on with excruciating stomach cramps and the threat of exploding - with the toilet RIGHT THERE but locked). I was SO embarrassed and just made it before having an accident. The next time I was in the store and she was on shift, I took her aside and showed her my MacMillan card (order those and the key ring ones when you can), and explained that due to having had cancer and the after effects of treatment, there are times I have no option but to use the closest toilet - disabled, men's, or not!!
Not all disabilities or medical conditions are obvious.
Take care and best wishes to you both. The counselling will help.
Thank you Robin, I have ordered a toilet card today for him. I didn't realise such things existed - all a bit of learning curve as they say. I do hope said assistant was humiliated back when you showed the card!
Hi again Mrs. Washington,
Also, order a "Radar" key for your husband.
They aren't expensive and give access to most public toilets (that are generally locked when you most need them!!).
I have one for N.Ireland - which I think works elsewhere in the U.K. I still need to get one for Ireland, but they are much dearer.
Best regards,
Hi Mrs Washington ,
Thank you for taking the time to update us, I’ve been thinking of you both.
Once again I’d like to echo what Robin (Phoenix Rising ) has written, I couldn’t have worded it better & although it must be very stressful I’m also pleased you’ve taken the first steps in dealing with this dreadful situation you find yourselves in.
As Robin has stated the ripples from the error made at your husband’s initial diagnosis are indeed far reaching for your husband, yourself & your life together on both a physical & emotional level, this error has impacted & will continue to impact your lives immeasurably.
I’m so pleased your husband was open to accessing some counselling too, I do hope he finds it helpful, often we expect in times of need that we unburden our woes onto those closest to us but I think there’s such a thing as being too close & some, dare I say especially men, tend to find it easier to open up to someone that’s removed from the situation, try not to take it too personally. This whole situation will have traumatised you too so don’t rule out speaking with someone yourself, even if not right now you may find in time to come it’ll help.
As for the incident with the woman when your husband was accessing the disabled toilet people never fail to amaze me with their ignorance honestly!! Although it shouldn’t have been necessary I’m pleased he challenged this silly woman & put her firmly in her place! Please try & keep in your mind that she is in the minority though & obviously has nothing else going on in her life as she has the time to monitor people using a disabled toilet for heavens sake! My eldest daughter has Downs Syndrome & I’ve accessed disabled bathrooms with her at events when there’s been large queues at the regular toilets & we’ve had funny looks from the odd busy-body & her disability is pretty obvious, I just usually stop in my tracks & stare straight back at them until they look away (usually red faced I might say!).
Once the hospital respond to your complaint & your solicitor can advise you will hopefully find things appear a little clearer & that any further action will be lead by your legal team.
Take care both of you, I hope your husbands recovery continues & you continue to navigate your way through, please know we’re here for you both.
Nicola
Mrs Washington
I am so sorry that you (and your husband) are going through all this and you really are a powerhouse doing all this work - what you have told us since the beginning more than illustrates the huge effect that this has had on both your lives and I am full of admiration for you. Please, please, don't stop. I think I can safely say we are all appalled at what has happened to your husband and it is vital that you don't allow yourselves to be worn out by how everything may be dragged out.
I am appalled at a busybody's treatment of your husband when he used to disabled loo and very much hope that this is a one-off for him.
We are always here to offer support too, perhaps not legal, but a listening ear at any time.
Irene xx
PS
Thanks everyone for your kinds words of support, it means a lot. We have had acknowledgement of the complaint back from the hospital today so now its a waiting game I guess?
Meanwhile, I am reading through the letters from the hospital again. ~Does anyone know what the letters mean - I have tried a bit of googling but am stuck with some of it.
Originally graded as
came back as
T1 N0 MX R0
what does the MX and R0 mean?
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