"Take care of yourself"

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We often get the advice that we should talk to others. People ask how my husband is but I have not found talking any help at all. I normally say very little now. In fact why am I writing this?

For doctors and nurses I am just another person with the same anxieties about my husband in a long line of people they will meet in their careers. Some neighbours ask but obviously don't know what to say except "Take care of yourself" . Some old friends  say "We must meet up for coffee" but I don't hear from them again .Some think it is an ailment competition and want to tell me all about someone else they know who is ill. My mother takes a different stance and phones every night for an hour to repeat the same accounts about her neighbours, who she doesn't like, the war and what she has eaten in an effort, she says, to cheer me up. I don't get a word in.

Cancer is a depressing illness that everyone is afraid of and therefore a taboo subject. I understand people's feelings and respect their right not to be burdened by the problems of my husband and I. Life is so short that I think it is unfair to unload misery on other people.They feel helpless as they have no cure. By giving the advice "Take care of yourself" they feel they have shown empathy.

I know why I am writing this here now. It is because only people who are actually experiencing the same issues with cancer truly understand.

  • I hear you Pjo77. I really do.

    when someone says ‘you take care of yourself’ it gives me the rage.

    I’m like, yes, well, thank you for pointing out that no one else will! And that you certainly aren’t willing to!

    i want to say back, I’m already taking care of everything else, EVERYTHING else, but not to worry chuck, I will get right on with taking care of myself too.

    And then the brief flash of energy to get mad is gone, and I’m just defeated instead.

    so I definitely feel for you xxx

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    FormerMember in reply to Vulpes

    PJO,

    Hurrah for your totally honest and accurate account!

    I think I was a little more lucky than you that Julie had a few friends who constantly contacted her, took her out and made her feel loved.

    For me as carer, not a thing. In fact, the first time a medical professional ever asked how I was coping was in the hospice.

    Can I add to your ' take care of yourself '!

    How about: "if there is anything I can do let me know...."  Does that mean I could phone them in the early hours of the morning to give pain relief - 

    Bottom line is, we care for those we love and are happy do it - if you have been a carer like this you will know, if you haven't you couldn't possibly have a clue.

    End of rant!

    Pjo, take care of yourself and if there is anything I can do to help let me know Slight smile

  • Hey Pjo77,

    Amen, sister. Amen to everything you wrote.

    When people tell me to "look after myself" I tell them "I have two others coming in to help me, so that makes me, myself and I. Between the three of us we seem to have most things covered, but if you want to come and do the lawnmowing, housework, grocery shopping, laundry every week, please don't hesitate." I generally find this is enough to make the fly-by-nighters fly away.

    When someone wants to play Disease Olympics (or ailment competition as you called it), the easiest way to win the gold is to tell them. Everything. Absolutely everything. The shitty side effects that are unavoidable. The soul crushing fatigue. The aches. The pains. The vomit. The diaorrhea. The constipation. The ambulance calls after a fall. The trips to hospital.

    Then start on the carers side of things. The solitude. The isolation. The heart breaking loneliness. The 2AM stripping the bed, remaking the bed, lightning fast shower and cleanup, and washing the bed linen after the inevitable accidents. If this still hasn't got me the gold, I tell them about the (maximum) 4 hours broken sleep a night. They usually shut up and/or run away before you even get to tell them about the midnight bourbons so you can get some sleep.

    The so-called "friends" that you haven't seen for 5 years - they can go and get well and truly stuffed.

    Those absolute gems that will help you because they see you really need help and will hold you at 1 in the morning while you sob for what is to come - they are the ones that help you retreat, recover, replenish and restore yourself (until the next time it all gets too much). You only need 1 of these and I am truly, truly blessed to have 4 of them.

    Keep the ones you need and the rest can be treated as a convenient target for your next outburst.

    Peace,
    Ewen :-)

    The day after your carers journey ends, the sun will still rise.
    As will you.
  • Sussex, when people say to me, let me know if you need anything, I have started to take them at face value and say, ok. I will tell you right now what I need from you.

    I need you to call me. At least once a week. Maybe I will have something I need from you when you call, maybe it will just be good to have a chat. I need you to be in charge of contacting me. I need YOU to be in charge of reaching out to me. That’s what I need.

    A few have really taken it to heart and have even said it’s so helpful to know exactly what I need, and they call me like clockwork, just to chat, and sometimes I’m like oh thank god you called, I’m stuck with this or that and it would be super if you could do x or y.

    Others have I think, been mildly horrified to have their bluff called! It certainly sorts the wheat from the chaff! Grin

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    FormerMember in reply to Vulpes

    Hi Vulpes,

    Sounds like a good plan you put together.

    Its funny isn't it, the people I respect and appreciate most are the ones who did contact Julie most - it was the regular pings of text messages that made her smile most.

    Hope things are going well for you.

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    FormerMember in reply to Vulpes

    My wife asks for nothing more than a call, tweet, WhatsApp facebook message from her friends. of course they do more, taking her out, visiting ect, these are the things that put a smile on her face. everytime someone asks "what can I do" she smiles and says, "you just did it"

    I am privadyeledged and proud to have known this amazing woman for the little time we have had  together. 

    regards ADY

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Oh my goodness, PJO, you’ve hit the nail on the head.    When my husband was first diagnosed, nearly 2 years ago, so many people got in touch.  None actually did anything, there was nothing they could do I know, but support was really appreciated from both us.   Since then, most have gradually disappeared, just two couples who keep in touch, we have meals out with them and coffee and chat.  Sometimes just the offer of coming to the supermarket, or helping with the garden would be great, but no help forth coming, always “Busy”.    I don’t mean to sound bitter but its when bad things happen that you really get to know who your friends are.   Now we have many acquantainces but real friends are very thin on the ground.

    My husband is amazing, always so cheerful and positive even at the really tough times so I paste a smile on and keep going Slight smile