when does end of life care begin ?

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As there seems to be some confusion about the moment that end of life care begins I took it upon myself to do a bit of research and came across this advice from a nhs website which gives an accurate explanation which I think will be useful to forum members who are thinking of joining the end of life forum, as I think there is a misconception of what it really means.

When does end of life care begin?

End of life care should begin when you need it and may last a few days, or for months or years.

People in lots of different situations can benefit from end of life care. Some of them may be expected to die within the next few hours or days. Others receive end of life care over many months.

People are considered to be approaching the end of life when they are likely to die within the next 12 months, although this is not always possible to predict. This includes people whose death is imminent, as well as people who:

  • have an advanced incurable illness, such as cancer, dementia or motor neurone disease
  • are generally frail and have co-existing conditions that mean they are expected to die within 12 months
  • have existing conditions if they are at risk of dying from a sudden crisis in their condition
  • have a life-threatening acute condition caused by a sudden catastrophic event, such as an accident or stroke

The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) has published guidance on the care of dying adults in the last days of life. This guidance covers how to manage common symptoms.

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Dear Kate.

    I am so moved by your mail I can't write much just now.

    lt reached so many thoughts and feelings I have.. I feel like a number. Hopefully I can be as strong as you , so far decisions I have made with family are accepted.  I will keep looking for mail from you . You will be in my thoughts . Love Colleen x x

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Dear

    Dear Kate, I’m so glad you found the information useful, I agree with all the thoughts you have expressed in your post, especially about being in no mans land. Part of the problem is that the idea of death has gone out of fashion and there is a tendency to believe there is always going to be as solution to every cancer diagnosis but we know that’s not true and as terminal patients we have become an inconvenient truth, hence other than at the hospice support is a bit thin on the ground and ignorance amongst the general public about our plight is widespread leading to some insensitive comments and lack of acceptance of our reality. It’s the reason why I’ve been so determined to champion the end of life forum despite some pushback from some misguided individuals. I know many people read our posts even though they are not members or haven’t reached the end of active treatment but want information so as to be prepared, so I don’t feel as though we are wasting our time and even after I’m gone these posts will be here for anyone who is interested in reading them. I want my personal legacy to be that I helped to break down the taboos surrounding end of life care and support the people in the hospice and medical community who are trying hard to make a change. In the era of many new life extending treatments with uncertain outcomes the numbers of people living in limbo will only grow and it’s time for a wholesale change in the nhs to provide ongoing support as they make the transition to end of life care which in most case will inevitable arrive.

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Jonty

    i find as I have already mentioned in earlier posts your contributions extremely helpful.  I looked after my husband when he was ill and in a previous existence trained as a nurse caring for others in our position. As a young student nurse in the 80s I worked in a hospice to make extra money and learned much.

    For me your advice has allowed me to make sense of my current circumstances, hold the living with and end of as ideas learning from both. Gain support from you and the others on the forum, make preparations for when circumstances change , but live in the moment now. At the moment I am discussing potential treatments but am under no illusion ( for me ) that at some point things will change. I also think that people struggle with the idea that individuals are living with cancer some for short, some for longer periods of time, it is not what they expect. Enough form me , just wanted to say thank you form me. Take care.