Support belt on prescription

FormerMember
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Just discovered by accident that you are allowed three lots of support wear each year on prescription. It was mentioned by my stoma nurse that I should think about support as hernias are a possibility once you have a stoma. She said I should get some control pants, but I found out you can get the real deal on prescription from a leaflet that was at the stoma clinic. I had a lady here last night measuring me for a belt which will have a hole in it for the bag, so it is not flattened. She has put the order in by prescription. Ordinary support knickers squash the bag and as pancaking is a big problem for me, this belt seems a perfect solution.  I have chosen a light weight.one as dont like anything very tight around my middle.

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    My husband was railroaded into using up all three of his prescriptions on these products , so my advice would be to insist that you ONLY HAVE ONE until you have tried it out.

    In his case it was useless, in fact, counterproductive, as the elastic in the beltcompressed the top of the pouch and caused leakage. Not a good result.


    I eventually tracked down a contraption which consists of a hard disc with a hole which goes round the stoma and supports the hernia, the bag hangs outside and so is not constricted. This works really well for him.

    Again, please dont let them take up your full prescription until you are sure. In our case, they put the request for all three through without our consent, luckily our GP signed off the right ones for us, but it would have been an expensive bit of sharp practice for us.


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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    As there are different types of hernia support garments these are broken down into two categories 

    BELTS (which is what I am assuming we are talking about here) long piece of two way stretch material which attaches on tightening with Velcro 
    and

    SUPPORT UNDERWEAR comprising pants, girdles and vests.

    It is my understanding that you can be prescribed 
    3 items from category 1 (Belts)
    6 items from category 2 (support underwear)

    The problem, as I see it, is when we are forced to order and have approved by a stoma care nurse.

    The solution can either be 
    1. Discuss your requirements with your GP and ask him to prescribe.
    2. Ask either your supply company or even better the manufacturer to raise a prescription request direct to your GP.

    My stoma nurse after 3+ years asked me a few months ago if I was still using the same type of belt that she ordered 3 years ago (which incidentally was the wrong depth) and was taken aback when I told her No.

    How do I order?

    Request the support garments I require from my GP and send off the prescription to any of the delivery companies I use (careful, there is one delivery company who will question the signed GP prescription and ask the stoma nurse to further approval).

    On occasion I order direct to the manufacturer by sending them the prescription.

    If you ask most of the delivery companies HOW LONG the stock answer is normally 4/5 weeks but most of the items are held in stock.

    Different prescribing rules apply to all parts of the UK and in particular in England where it different between counties and even local clinical commissioning groups (CCGs) who control the GP budget.
    Please do some research ask the manufacturers to explain your annual allowance (Jan to Dec) for each year for all items.
    But NHS guidelines are as the word implies is only a suggestion, your GP can use his discretion after all we all have heard of patients being sent on foreign holidays or receiving a tube of off the shelf toothpaste.
    The UKs NHS is a strange organisation.
    My Sunday afternoon rant, sorry to all.
    Ian
    NIOBE if your husband got his support belt/strap from Sash well done on finding them if not worth while having a chat - the owner of the company has his own personal stoma and us very helpful. 

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Ian

    Yes it is SASH.

    Thank goodness I found them, I was getting fairly desperate, considering ordering something from GREECE that I found on the net, and I even set about trying to manufacture something with plastic and webbing myself. Their's is much better, because it is curved and so fits better.

    I agree about the problems with stoma nurses. In Oxfordshire, we had ONE visit from the local nurse, just after Jeff was discharged, but before he was moving about much, so when things were pretty easy anyway. After that we had the famous home measuring visit, arranged by the stoma nurse, which I now see was nothing but a sales call.


    Since then, we have had a phone call, hoping that he was 'okay'; when we email or call we often do not get a response, if at all, for weeks. As Jeff has had a lot of problems recently, this is not very good. we are both reasonably compos mentis, and resourceful; if we weren't , I don't know how we would have coped.


    Fortunately, he was/is a patient at the Royal Marsden, and the stoma nurse there is wonderful;  he is able to make an appointment to see her when he goes for the the periodic scans.


    As cancer becomes a chronic condition, and the number of patients who have a permanent stoma increases, the aftercare provision seems to be being cut and cut. All the Oxfordshire nurses are now 'part-time' , but there are no more of them.


    I love the idea of a personal stoma - can you have a shared one? ( sometimes I feel as if the answer is yes....)


    Kind regards


    Niobe



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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi, I see a couple of people in this thread use the SASH hernia belt. I'd be very grateful for any feedback etc on them for a new urostomate who was very active before the op. Thanks

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi, I'm sorry to see that your request for feedback on Sash hernia belt has not attracted any responses yet. I do know that some members are using them and may have missed your thread.

    I wonder if it might attract some response if you made a new post and headed it up with  something like

    SASH Hernia Belts Reviews and comments required

    or something similar

    I have looked at the SASH website and it doesn't have a review page and I wonder if contacting the company and asking if they have any reviews that you could examine might be an option.

    There is an open Facebook page where reviews have been posted which might help.

    Hope you get some responses as I would like to read them also.

    Ian

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

     Hi sboots

    I havent got a great deal to add  about our experience which is not covered above. Our experience is for what is called a dual output or wet stoma, which has caused an enormous and incurable hernia.

    My husband found the SASH product very effective, it is clearly designed by someone who understands the problem from personal experience, unlike most of the products we have found. If you call them, you speak directly to ( I think) the owner, it is quite a small company without the dreaded customer service 'advisers' ie salespeople.

    The only possible problem is that you have to measure yourself yourself ( or you can get your wife to do it if you are fortunate enough to have one). Jeff measured up the first one himself and ordered  it too big; I had to take it in, it is lucky that I have a robust sewing machine because this product is built to take a lot of stress and last forever ( I should have known better, he is useless at measuring, he cant really see the tape measure properly, I think).

    But we reccomend SASH thoroughly, it has been a big help to him. For example, he can mow a half acre garden with a push mower.

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Thanks Niobe and I am sorry that Jeff has had such a rough time of it I do hope things improve for him in the future. Oh and sewing machines, tape measures, alterations etc is my domain as that is one thing my wife is no good at

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Supportex are worth a look, they send someone to your home to measure you for the support belt and you can try on one of theirs so that you know what you will be getting. 

    They also send the prescription request to your GP and remind you annually request another. 

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Thanks, I've looked online at SupportX belts but they look too big/wide. I don't need support everywhere just in the stoma area but thanks

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    The suportx come in different widths. Maybe have another look if that is what’s putting you off.