Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



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    I have to say that for a micro wave ready meal that was really delicious - Sis done well at M&S - now then to consider what on earth could be for pudding? D'ya think ice-cream may be appropriate at all - lol

    thats it then - ice cream for pud ina few minutes then a short french coffee.- nice sunday lunch, i must be becoming a traditonalist in my older years!!

    I think everyone should tell this afternoon what they had for their sunday lunch and what is what like - good, bad or indifferent.

    So I'll start :-

    M&S healthy options Roast Beef with vegtables - Good.

    Now its all up to you lot.

    (also hoping will give me ideas for future lunches be it sunday or otherday)

    have fun all,

    Feed Me

    Andrew
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    homemade asparagus soup , followed by a ham salad sandwich ...........then homemade triple chocolate brownies ...which i made yesterday with my cheffy fella .................one each for all of you !!!!


    suexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Mine will be.......home made bread, for a ham and salad sandwich, then fresh fruit.....think i have some kiwi fruit.....we will have main meal at night.

    Moomy

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    Aww,

    I could have had my triple choc cookie with the ice cream I just had - oh well I'll have it later on then.

    popular ham salad sandwiches today!

    mmmm - roast turkey, love turkey at any time of the year.

    So Helen, what do you think the mainevent will be this evening then - and don;t forget to report back and score it for all of us - lol

    Andrew



  • Our meal tonight? oooooh, think a home made lasagne......with stir fried vegetables.....

    Moomy

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    You will of course let me know just how brilliant it is then!

    I think I have just found the answer to my touring holiday problem - i.e. the "I can't be bothered organising it myself prolem",

    I have found a company called "Classic Travelling" who do driving tours for modern and classic cars but will also do tailer made ones if the one you want os not according to their trips. It looks really good and they will do the hotel booking and stuff for you as well - seems like a dream come true to me.

    I think that late september or early october is the time for that trip, not too hot any more, not too many tourists and still very good chance of warm sunshine AND new wines around - lol.

    We will see what happens.

    Andrew

    xx

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    im going to curl up on the sofa for a while with a book ............brain aches !!!!!
    too much studying is bad for you !!!!!!
    gonna finish a book my fella gave to me to read , its pink floyds biography ..........might put their music on too .............'shine on you crazy diamond '/ or my favourite track 'comfortably numb' ( love that title !!)
    suexxxxxxxxxxxx
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    Shine on You Crazy Diamond - one of my very favourite tracks anywhere - it reminds me of my friend Richard

    "Drink scotch whisley all night long and die behind the wheel,
    They got a name for the winners in the world,
    I want a name when i loose,
    Call me deacon blues"

    Richard loves scotch of any kind and always said he would die driving (he loves driving too). but now i think he's a bit more grown up and decided to live instead - lol.

    Great track!!
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    i watched david gilmore a few months back on the tv singing that track , i really would love his solo album .think he is a fantastic guitar player , and when he sings on the comfortably numb track , it sends shivers down my spine ..........i remember watching the brick in a wall gig in germany and seeing him sing it ........awesome.
    my fella paul sometimes plays 'wish you were here ' for me on his acoustic guitar .

    its through paul i got back into pink floyd , he went to watch roger waters about 6 years ago , previous to that i was a big early genesis fan ............' follow you ' is such a lovely track ... 'stay with me , my love i hope you'll always be , right here in my arms if ever i needed you ...........follow you , follow me , all the days and nights that we will know will be , i will stay with you , will you stay with me ...........just one single tear in each passing year .

    sometimes songs are sheer poetry !!!
    suexxxxxx
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    Is he my opposition for your heart?

    Thats no good then, I can't play the guitar or write songs or anything like that - give up now then,


    Crying 1 Rolling Eyes Sobbing

    is that enough? does anyone get the gist?

    more needed?

    do I need a shovel - lol

    Hi, Christine, lovely to see you again, how is your sunday going?

    Andrew
    xx