Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    hi andrew,
    i'm still awake, are you, or have you gone to bed
    as well?
    dianne xx
  • Andrew, hi, have been kept off this all day, the site somehow just was off! How are you doing? Just heard that our lass is on her way down a day early, which is good as we have more time to talk.....will p/m you....

    Have you been for that drive in the Rangy yet?

    Moomy

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    told you all i was slow on here, just said goodnight
    to christine, took me so long to reply, shes got up
    again lol
    dianne xx
  • FormerMember
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    Dianne,
    I really am going to bed now.
    I would'nt be surprised in the site does'nt go down again, it seems to be running a bit slow.
    Dont worry about being slow Dianne, I cant go to swiftly myself.

    A Very good night to you Dianne,
    and to Liz (probably already snoring), Sue, Helen and Andrew.
    Sweet Dreams
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    Dianne - I am still here - was just looking at the tourist authority websites for france and spain - seems they both have these historic sites available for staying in rather than normal hotels. I thought it would be nicer and just a bit different.

    Christine, Hi, I am way too old for camping - 3 star is roughing it for me - lol and sorry and all that but I need luxury and looking after all the way nowadays.



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    Hi Helen,

    no not driven Rangy yet, drove my car today though for the first time in nearly 8 weeks - it was great to get back behind the wheel again. Even had the roof down coming home - was folowed by the police for a while on the ring road and was feeling guilty about something - I have no idea what though!! unless it was the load of morphone I was carrying - inside me as well - lol

    Next week I hope to have my first drive on the RR so that will be cool as well.

    I am going to drive solo tomorrow to see how I feel about that - not sure whether or not its too early but will give it a go o the paper shop for the Times (its only about half a mile so not really a long trip).
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    Its late, I am a bit tired I have over ice-creamed (which I thought was impossible anyway) and nothing on TV. My life is so completely sad that I just wrote down that last thought! and am having a conversationwith my crutches about whether to take both of them in the car tomorrow or which one should be left behind - yes its that bad - I talk to bits of metal - lol -

    Stumble

    So I am off to bed before I waste too much of Sunday.

    Good night anyone reading or watching or waiting and see you tomorrow.

    Bye,

    Andrew
    xx
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    Hi Liz,

    and a good morning to you too.

    Sleep was not too bad thanks, its the getting up that’s difficult. I am still finding that shifting my body from a prone position to standing or sitting up is the hardest thing to do at the moment, So am sitting here, having taken the first round of the days drugs, waiting for the nerve and the pain to settle down. Its also a bit of an experiment as I have the docs appt at 9,30 tomorrow and needed to see how long I have to get myself sorted for that. I think I will fail to make it if today is anything to go by. I have been up since 6.30 and my back shows no sign of getting me in a place where I can even contemplate being on time for the appt if it were today.

    Its all a bit of a conundrum really, I could take the drugs earlier but then the evenings drugs would have to be earlier as well. That then has a knock on effect for the evening and the next day as my drugs are times around a 12 hour day for the morphine balance.

    Perhaps I should have paid more attention at school - lol - in biology!!

    Anyway that’s me - how are you this morning, you seem very up- eat and happy - throw some this way - lol

    Andrew





  • Morning! We were up rather late, seeing daughter in and a quick chat before bed, at least she can have a lie in, doesn't need to set off for work till about 3pm! It looks a lovely day, another to sit in the garden, or at least the summer house....Hope the pain eases soon for you, Andrew.

    Moomy

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    Hi Helen,

    thanks it is starting to ease off now so shortly will be able to have some breakfast and coffee (yeh).

    You lucky thing, the sun is shining, its grey and miserable here. Already had a coupleof longer showers and having looked at the forecast, it seems set in for the day. So make the most of the sun whilst you have it.

    You lot are all so posh - what with your "Summer Houses" and pseudo sheds - lol - I would have one you know but its a bit difficult on the third floor - lol.

    Have some fun today with Caz and I wish you a great sunday.

    Cheers

    Andrew