Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • FormerMember
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    Hi, Liz
    what delicious concoctions are you cookng up today?
    knowing you, it will be something which will make us all jealous!
    sue x
  • FormerMember
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    What no chocolate????????????? (just getting it in before Sue does!!!) xx
  • FormerMember
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    oh, Liz, every little girl should have an auntie just like you!! one who takes the trouble to cook with them.
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    hah-hmmm....my nieces also used to visit me when very small - but only so they could lick the bowl clean.........and get covered in icing.................
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    .........................but i think it should definitely be chocolate cake next time. (thank you, Dot)
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    Hi Dave





    I'm glad you've found us, but of course sorry that you have to be here in the first place. I have an Aunt who has suffered with Crohn's since she was 25........she's 76 now, and still going strong, you'll be pleased to know! Also, my mother is living with CLL.........so I do know a little of what your going through. I just wanted to let you know that we on here all understand how difficult it is worrying about the reactions from family and friends. And, if you ever need to 'talk bowels' or 'talk lumps and bumps' then we're here for you. We will always listen and offer support whereever we can, and try our best to lift your spirits when your down or feeling crap whilst on chemo or other treatments.





    Welcome to 'family and friends'





    Christine


    x
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    Hi Also to Liz, Sue and Dot.

    Liz, your tempting me! but I'm going to resist, and go and make my salad. How boring am I!
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    Good Morning All.





    Liz, its good to see you up and running so early. I hope your feeling fine today.


    Our weather is a typical bank holiday........drizzling with misty low cloud over the hills.


    Went to a house party last night so a bit of a wooly head this morning. We have a suprise visit from some relations from Yorkshire who have decided to come down for a few days holiday so we are about to go and meet them in town. The Moat Race is on today, which is always good for a laugh. This is when groups build their own rafts then they have races down the moat of the Bishops Palace in Wells.........Always VERY FUNNY. I'm sure our visitors will enjoy it.





    Off now, so talk to you all later. I hope everyone has a good bank holiday whatever your all doing. I'm sure those in the East of the country will see some sunshine but I dont think us here in the west will be so lucky.





    Loads of Love


    Christine


    xxxx
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    hi christine

    i'm so happy for you that you are still posting. i have never asked how long because how can one person tell? i guess you must be brave.
    bank holiday afternoon is spent with radio 2 and the beatles. brings back loads of memories.
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    Hi there Sue (Bmaleus)





    I dont think we've spoken before, although knowing what my memory is like, I might have spoken to you just yesterday and forgotten all about it....lol. Anyway, It's nice to speak to you now. I was also listening to the Radio 2 Beatles day this morning before we went out for the day. I had a good old singalong to Elanore Rigby and my husband was making me laugh by singing 'I want to hold you hand' in a German Accent (he's not German, he was singing it like a German SS officer).





    Your very right about one person not being able to predict another persons life expectancy. When a friend or acquaintance asks me this question (mind you, most people are to afraid or embarrassed to come straight out and ask me 'how long') I tell them that if my life was a football game, then I am probably in extra time. Maybe it would be more truthful to say I'm in the penalty shout out stage. But what a game it's been........and still is. I enjoy every single day and I'm doing my very best to squash in as much as possible..........thanks mainly to my dear husband (and his bank manager.....lol)





    I hope everyone has had a good day today.





    I must go for the moment as my tea is ready (fried egg, runner beans and mash potatoe with loads of brown sauce......yummy!)







    DAVE: if your looking in.........I hope your consultants appointment goes well for you.





    Bye for now.





    Christine


    xxxx