Are friends and family ever enough?

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Andrew, who began this thread, sadly died in September 2008, but his friends wished that his thread remain open in his memory, particularly to promote Andrew's idea of 'dancing away cancer' each Friday at 3pm. Please feel free to post your dance tunes every Friday in his memory.


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Hello everyone,

this is my topic to start and its a question that has been burning around the back of my mind for the last few days.

I always thought that having a small group of very close friends was enough for anyone, ok you always have work colleagues and other acquaintances but the main group of my friends has remained within a steady little group of five people for nigh on the last twenty years. We have shared almost, if not all, of what life can show you over that period and nothing has every served to tear us very far apart for long.

There have always times when partners/other friends/own family have been more important to us and always been times when we are more important to each other and perhaps have taken some of this for granted and assumed that it will always be thus. I have reached the opinion that I have for certain.

Then you get cancer! Things change I suppose but I have cancer and all of a sudden things are important to me that weren't before and they have an impact on others which were not anticipated.

First I need to say that my friends have been great through this initial part of my illness and there is nothing to say that this position is going to change immediately - rather its me that seems to be changing and not them. I am having doubts about my ability to cope with what is happening to me and what may happen in the immediate future, I am doubting my friends willingness to hear what I have to say when they ask that questions each day "How are you?", I don't want to say "OK thanks" each time when I am not OK,

I want to say "it bloody hurts" and "I don't feel well at all" and "I think its really unfair that I have this disease and you don't" (that one really stings in your head and even if its not at all true, sometimes you can't help yourself thinking it even fleetingly).

Then after that I get guilty about having the disease and having those bad thoughts that seem to go along with it all. I keep thinking that I am asking too much of them now in terms of emotional and physical help and what if their well runs dry later when I need them even more than I do now and they have nothing left to give me. Then I think that that is a really selfish "me, me me" attitude to have and that gets me really down - can you be guilty about a guilty thought which in itself is only a selfish thought about feeling guilty - just how big a knot is that one to unravel.

Anyway before I drive all away completely with this "hymn to the depressed" that brings around the original thought I had;

- can you use up and wear out your friends and family with this thing before you need them most?

Thanks for reading (if you managed to get through the dirge without laughing too much) and any thoughts are appreciated.

Cheers

Andrew



  • Ouch, Christine, sounds like a migraine, take care, get plenty of rest, it could have been brought on with all the worry about your Mum too.....

    Liz, I bet your new hairdo looks great!

    Margo, Sue, Dianne, Dot, and all others, love and hugs to you all.....

    Moomy

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    Good night everyone- am going to speak to Mum about lots of stuff at the weekend so hope to have resolved a few things and to get her a bit of time to herself. The Mac nurse they see was a bit stand offish at first and didn't seem to be much help but I think that they have started to form a relationship and Mum feels a bit happier- I think we might be starting to move into a new phase. The Mac nurse asked Dad about his end and how he wanted it to be, which I don't think anyone else had dared to do- he was quite accepting and I think it has helped Mum too- at least we know how he feels (at the moment anyway). It still seems to be very fast. This weekend we have to talk about wills which seems really horrid but I guess it needs to be done. I am looking forward to a dance tomorrow.
    Bless and thanks for your words of wisdom
    Margox
    ps where do the little dancing people come from?
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    Oh Margo your sounding much stronger at the moment. I hope your talk with your mum goes well, and you both find it comforting to get all the things said that need to be said.

    My eye has stopped flashing........ Wow! that was a bit scarey. Specially since I hadn't even had a drink.
    Sorry Helen and Liz if I gave you a scare. I don't know if it was migraine, as I've never suffered with that before (thank goodness). I never had a headache with it, It was like I was looking through a circle which was all zig zaggy and flashing very fast. Anyway, much better now, just left with a bit of an aching eye, so I'd better be off to bed.

    I have Gym at 8.30am. I dont know why I make the appointments so early in the morning......I must be a touch masochistic.....lol.

    I'll be joining you all tomorrow for the Dance. I've a few things I need to think about and a few decissions I need to make, so I'm sure tomorrows dance with help me with these, and help to clear my head.

    I hope you all have a peaceful night.
    Christine
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  • Hello to you all, its Friday again, time for 'dance the c**p out of cancer' at 3pm.....

    Christine, I'm so glad that odd sensation has gone, yes, you had me a touch worried!

    Liz, hope all is going ok and you are by now feeling fitter with a new hairdo too

    Sue, hope you don't feel too bereft, my friend...

    Dianne, Margo, Dot, Juls (where are you? do take a bit of time off from solid working!) and anyone else who looks in, my love and hugs to you

    My choice for today, mmmm, not easy, but I do have music to learn, including the choir bits from Beethoven 9, so maybe a touch of 'Ode to Joy' by that wonderful composer....

    Moomy

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    I danced at 3 and thought of you all- I hope everyone is having a good day today. I am away for the weekend, going to see Mum and Dad. Catch up next week. Enjoy the sunshine and all the beautiful leaves and birdsong.

    Margox

  • I gently swayed as I had just finished the cleaning, but it was good, and I thought of everyone on here....

    Moomy

  • Oooooh, Liz, thinking of you, hoping that your Doc is kind enough to add anaesthetic to that cortisone injection if thats what you have today......hope it helps a good deal too.....

    Christine, Sue, Margo, Dianne, Juls, Liz too, my love and hugs for you today....

    Moomy

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    hi everyone
    a quick hello .
    im not doing too well im afraid ......im in a rather down and flat frame of mind ....cant snap out of it .
    i know its all related to losing my friend , and i accept that , bu coping with this is hard .
    im stll going the gym and doing normal stuff , but 'she' is there all the time .

    for the past 3 years , my life has revolved around her , and the hole left is gaping and hurts
    suxxxxxx
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    Hi everyone,
    Liz, i hope everything went well for you at the doctors and hospital,
    Sue, thinking of you and here if you need to chat,
    I hope everyone else on here is ok
    Love and hugs to you all xxxxxx
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    hi Liz,
    Hope the cortisone injection is helping.......oooo no anaesthetic
    Sorry you had such a long wait at the hospital, and you are still no further forward,
    will keep everything crossed for you.
    Thinking of everyone else on here and sending love and hugs to you all
    Dianne xxxxxx