Scrambled head of confusion

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Hi everyone I’m new to the community so my story is beginning of October 2022 I found a lump at the top of my right breast was seen next day at doctors surgery and an appointment was made there and then for breast clinic which I had two weeks later, then two weeks after that the results and it was confirmed I had stage 2 grade 3 invasive ductal cancer hormone negative HER2 positive. Obviously like everyone else my world fell apart, didn’t have time to think or process because of so many different appointments and loads of different information to take in and then on 1st December I had my first chemo session and my god the side effects started 24 hours later and how horrendous was they! I told my oncologist I couldn’t do four months of chemo feeling the way I did, so she lowered my dose which was slightly better but…! Anyway last chemo was end of March 2023 and had my single mastectomy on 21st April which recovery has gone well, I saw my surgeon on 10th May to be told the lymph nodes they took for biopsy come back clear so I’m cancer free, I’m having Herceptin injections for few months and then that’s me done. I know I’m lucky compared to some and I’m truly grateful for what has been done for me but my head just feels so scrambled, mixed emotions it’s like my brain isn’t understanding that I got diagnosed with cancer then7 months later I’m being told the cancer has gone. Is it just me or can anyone else relate to these feelings? Sometimes I feel I’m being silly having these thoughts.

  • Hi  the cancer journey is full of obstacles that have to be navigated. I have been on my cancer journey for over 24 years and I am coming up to 8 years since my last treatment…… but over the first 15 years I only was in remission for 9 months before going back on treatment so although I am still not cured and never will my focus is firmly fixed on living life to the full.

    You may find it helpful to make a cuppa and have a look at this great paper After Treatment Finishes - Then What? by Dr Peter Harvey as it highlights the post treatment milestones.

    Mike (Thehighlander)

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  • Hi thanks for your reply! And wow that’s a long journey you have been on! I am living my life but just keep getting the horrible thoughts but hopefully will get there. I will have read thank you 

  • That’s one long ‘journey’. Hats off to you. Thanks for suggesting the article. Sadly, chemo took away my love of a good cuppa; just one, but a good one was my treat. Last chemo…can’t face the ‘morning brown’ any more. Small price, I guess. Chemo, the gift that just keeps on giving…& taking away, lol.

    Anyway, I’m rambling. No cuppa, alas, but have spent a good half hour reading & thinking about this article. Didn’t think I was one to need validation but seems I do. With my mind & emotions as scrambled as LWKent expressed, Dr Harvey’s article rang so many bells & made so much sense. Now I know it, it’s just the usual case of knowing what to do with what I know! See…proper scrambled.

    LWKent, hang in there! I’m 4ths post end of physical treatment, just long term drug therapy now (oh the joys of Letrozole & Abemaciclib). Some days it feels weirdly like it never happened (think I might have spent the past year in a bubble), some days still just too knackered to care. Today is a wobbly day which could go either way. So back on here to people who know & get it right.

    Best wishes to you both, sorry not to be offering any real support, but feeling a little less of a Lowlander by taking a little from Thehighlander’s suggested read.

    Hugs all round.

    xx

  • Hi  I am so pleased you found the article helpful...... but it's a bummer about the morning cuppa..... it took me about 4 years to win back my love of coffee..... so don't give up.

    Although the article is great it can leave you hanging in the air.....

    I often talk on this group about the concept that when we first get our cancer diagnosis we all get an invisible ruck-sack put on our backs.

    We then walk through our journey including our treatments, clinics, blood tests, scans, side effects……. and unknowingly, we continually throw stuff into the ruck-sack…… and the stuff builds up. It’s only when we finished our treatment (rang the bell) and look to try and ‘live’ life we realise that it’s not that straight forward.

    This is due to the weight of the ‘stuff’ we have collected in the ruck-sack pulling us down…. stuff like pent-up anxiety and stress, the ‘what if’s’, the difficulty in seeing a way forward with life, the disappointments around how some of our family and friends supported us, the silly things people said during and after treatment….. the list goes on.

    There comes a time when we hit ‘the wall’ and this is the point when this ruck-sack needs to be taken off our backs and over time cleaned out. It’s not an instant fix but a process…. but the healing process can only start when we are willing to do it and to achieve this we often need help so these are some links that you may want to follow up and see where you can find this help.

    One thing I did have to deal with was survivors guilt as I lost some very good friends to different cancers over my years and "why did I survive and they did not".......... but I got some great help through our local Maggie's Centre especially their Where Now? Course and One on One support.

    But the paper can be used as a self help tool as a vehicle for change and life improvement.

    So get a note book or some sheets of paper and put pen to paper - it is a good way forward.

    So a page per subject heading.

    Start detailing the things you have done already to move life on in each area and then start to set some achievable goals to work towards. 

    When you achieve the first goal on each lists, tick it off and then put a new goal at the bottom of the list. By doing this you can actually see your progress and celebrate achievements. When I say celebrate I do mean giving yourself treats and gifts........ you have life - celebrate it.

    The headings would be:

    What steps am I taking to regain trusts in my body?

    What steps am I taking to regain trust in myself?

    What steps am I taking to overcome living with uncertainty?

    What steps am I taking to deal with the world?

    What steps am I taking to regain mastery and control of my life?

    Try it, the future is sitting in front of you - think about driving a car. The big windscreen shows the future, the past is in the little mirrors and is getting smaller and more fuzzy as we move forward.....if you concentrate on the past you crash.

    Mike (Thehighlander)

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  • I honestly could not describe them feelings and emotions any better! 
    I am certainly going to give this a try and thank you for your wise words it’s much appreciated 

  • Do give this a go and please do come back and tell us how you get on ((hugs))

    Mike (Thehighlander)

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  • Thanks theHighlander for such gentle wise words & useful suggestions.  The rucksack idea is spot on. I had four counselling sessions after the end of physical treatment as I was struggling to see a way forward (& to not just cry about it all, even when I didn’t need to be crying!). The only thing is, the more we talked, the more I realised that I’d already got a pretty heavy rucksack before the cancer diagnosis. All completely manageable, was strong enough to carry it’s weight…until the cancer diagnosis. It turns out some things are just too much & can’t be carried on my own. I just couldn’t get my head round not being able to get a grip on my emotions, even months into treatment so it was actually reassuring to realise that it wasn’t just ‘the cancer thing’, it was just too much with everything else. So some unpacking had to begin. 
    Seeing & accepting what’s in my rucksack is one thing, finding the strength to let it go & knowing how to move forwards is the challenge now. I think I’m at that horrible stage where you’ve got to stick the rucksack in ‘Lost Luggage’ for a bit to let life settle & work out what’s what. 
    Might try your ‘pen to paper’ suggestion. It might give some order to the whirlwind of thoughts about the future that we all seem to experience. 

    So much kindness & understanding on here,

    Hugs to all

    xx

  • Hi again   I am so pleased that some of the Information rang some bells for you….. navigating the post treatment world takes time and dedication to walk the thin line that leads to a place of peace and contentment.

    I like the lost luggage thought…… give the pen and paper a try Thumbsup

    Mike (Thehighlander)

    It always seems impossible until its done - Nelson Mandela

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