Christmas household with a vulnerable person

FormerMember
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It’s a minefield, a nightmare, trying to agree on who can be in our home at Christmas.  

After breast cancer surgery last June and ongoing chemotherapy, my wife is a “clinically extremely vulnerable person”.  We are going to be in Tier 2 locally.  As far as I can tell under this latest 3 household rule for the 5 days of Christmas the guidance says “you must not meet with people indoors in any setting unless they are part of your household or support bubble”.

Her vulnerability overrides the 3 household option - is that correct?  The final 2 chemo sessions are scheduled for Dec 23 & 30 and has been shielding since July.

Step-Dad, daughter (27) on PIP lives at home, son (25)  lives 40 miles away and their Dad 10 miles away from us. Step-D spends a day every week with Dad. Dad works from home he’s been isolated and if he goes out shopping he does it off-peak very early in the morning, generally behaves in COVID risk averse way.

Could Dad be in this households support bubble and therefore deemed part of our household?

Son shares a flat with another person in London, they have both has been working from home. Son wants to arrive here 24/12 & stay for three nights. Travel back to London to collect girlfriend (also been working from home in her flat and will have returned to her family home for Christmas) and bring her here to meet his mum.

We’ve already said that Wife’s 2 sisters and her mother can’t be here (as is the case more often than not) for Christmas & Boxing Day but wife wants to try and keep everyone happy, at the back of her mind is “it might be m last Christmas”.  I’m worried she will be putting herself at risk if we don’t follow the guidance of “you must not meet with people indoors in any setting unless they are part of your household or support bubble”.

Do I suggest Son should stay with Dad? That increases Dad’s household to 2, son can visit from there and keep a social distance when visiting here.

Radiotherapy to come, 3 x 5 days maybe Feb/Mach and more surgery to remove bowel tumour after that.

Thoughts & advice please. Thank you

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    We are on chemo over the xmas period also shielding, so xmas day its just me and hubby and our youngest the other two children agree the risk is too high for them to attend, we are tier 3 so we will face time 1st thing in the morning again at 2pm for dinner and we are thinking of getting one of those portal things so we can join up for family games. Plus added benefit less people actually here less work and if hubby feels sick or tired he can relax back in his room without a crowd making a fuss. 

    Maybe if your wife wants a big family do then ask the ones she wants to attend to shield for 2 weeks before Christmas. Whatever you do I hope you have a lovely day.

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Thank you. Our situation has now changed, chemo has been stopped (2nd Dec) after consultant decided that the neuropathy my wife has developed could be permanent if more treatments were given.  Her bloods were ok for treatment to be given which is a good position to start from &, without the chemo this week, white blood cell shound be good in 3 weeks time for Christmas.

    We are in tier 2, son will come 1 week before Christmas to borrow mum’s car (she hasn’t driven it since before surgery on June 8).  He’ll drive back to London, work at home for the week and then be able to drive here on Christmas Eve, avoiding public transport.  We will still be distancing and cleaning a lot more than usual!  If after 3 nights he goes to girlfriends he will be out of the bubble

    Aside from nausea, wife has had every other side effect going. Now, the nerve pain in her hands and feet has increased, fingers and toes are sensitive, painful to use. Has given up using adult size cutlery.  Nails have also been dying and are now brown about half-way down, possibly working towards lifting off all together.  

    There were 4 doses of paclitaxel to go. Consultant appt this week to go through details about radiotherapy which is part of planned treatmen.  Her body has been so sensitive to chemo, she’s been in hospital with Neutropenic Sepsis twice because of it. Broast tumour was oestrogen dependent, Letrazole for years ahead coming up.

    Hope treatment for your husband goes well and you have the best and safest Christmas you can.

  • Hi, my husband is also currently on Folfiri and cetuximab, stage 4, had Apr surgery, permanent stoma,  now mets on liver and lungs and so far treatment isn’t working on liver. Daughter and granddaughter live with us in Devon, her ex lives in the North West.

    Daughter asked ex is she could put a hold on alternate weekend visits and the 3 days at Christmas as she was so worried about her daughter bringing Covid back into our family home. He knows how sick and vulnerable my husband, her dad is, but he obviously doesn’t care, he said my husband should move out of the family home as he’s told her he’s taking her to court. 

    I’m not sure how much more we can cope with, I can’t believe people can be so insensitive, we’re worried how long he’s got left, he was given months in August if treatment didn’t work, everyone on here knows how worried we are, we don’t need more to keep us awake at night. Maybe we need a solicitor.

    Sorry, rants of a stressed old woman, no one can help, only an understanding judge. 

    Budge