Have any of you felt Angry or Confused ?

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Dear all

It's 6 months since my wife dear Anne passed away with pancreatic cancer. I'm now finding myself reminiscing over our past but keep focusing on the troubled times and the role both of us played. Things that Anne said that I can't make sense of yet hurt me at the time, and still does. Like the time I attempted suiside although Anne didn't know this. I came home from an over night stay at the hospital and told her what I'd swallowed and why. She said quite calmly "Why did you do that?"  No hugs. I think Anne may have been on the autism spectrum maybe even touching the psychopath spectrum.Yet  I loved her to bits and still do.  My Anne wasn't an effectionate lady. She was very pragmatic and a great organiser yet our sex life was brilliant untill an illness set in and so we didn't have full sex for over 20yrs. And never once was I unfaithfull to her. I'd learnt from a previous bad choice that this doesn't  solve anything.  During our 50yrs of marriage I never stopped telling her I loved her and put her first in everything.I'm a born romantic and very tactile but in retrospect I think it was all in vain.  But in the early days as a young man I did rear up on occasions because I turned to drink. That created more more problems than it solved. All of my doing I might add. And I once had a very breif laiason with another woman because I felt so bloody unloved. Anne forgave me and so life carried on as normal.  Yet Anne always said. " LOVE is about what you do for someone. Not saying it or kisses and cuddles." And even since she passed I'm not sure if I was Anne's all loving husband  or just a loving partner. Towards the end Anne always said I love you before going to bed. And the last birthday card I got from her she said I was her rock yet she was always pushing me away. So what am I to make of that?  As the Americans say "I'm fucked up."  

Love and Light 

Geoff

  • Hi Geoff,

    It's natural for us to doubt and question ourselves. However, your Anne, as you say, was a pragmatic person and so, she told you what was true for her: she loved you. There is no need to doubt. It means you, also, gave her what she needed and wanted . I imagine a 50-year marriage cannot be a long, smooth ride. There must be bumps along the way. You both survived those bumps and that's an achievement to be proud of. You were both so lucky to have had each other. You say she was not an affectionate person. Neither was my husband but he showed his love in other ways: the way he spoke to me, his tone of voice, the things he did for me, the way he worried about me, and his always wanting the best for me. Anne was right; it's not just the kisses and cuddles that count. Of course, we love those things but if you stayed together for so long, you, too, knew, there was much more than that and Anne knew you loved her and still do.

  • Oops, I didn't answer your question: yes, I have felt angry and confused at times.

    Angry that he didn't stop smoking; angry that he didn't love me enough to stop; angry that he should have stopped because he was older than me. Angry too that cigarette manufacturers add chemicals or whatever to make sue you're hooked for life … and death.

    But everything else I said before still holds. He did love me and I him, despite all our flaws, our disagreements, our différences.

  • Dear Jeff,

    It sounds like your relationship was not always easy and you are remembering that now. And it also sounds like you and your Anne really loved each other, and you still love her, because otherwise you wouldn't have been together for 50 years.

    I can relate to what you write so much because I too have gone through times during the almost two years of my journey with grief when I have been angry either with myself for something I did or didn't do or when I was angry with Paul. I actually feel that it is a very healthy part of our process when we cannot only remember the lovely things and make our love and lives to be out to have been absolutely fantastic with never a sharp word being spoken or a disappointment coming our way or whatever because this is simply not the way our lives are. Some relationships are more difficult than others, but I think all of us who were in a longterm relationship have to admit that not everything was always easy.

    Paul and I were sometimes hurtful with each other and behaved in ways that were really not nice. We both knew how to press each others' buttons and, yes, we often did.

    I think if we only remembered the good times, we would live in denial.

    Love, Mel.

    I don't like the term "moving on" because it sounds to me like we are leaving our loved ones and the life we had with them behind. I like the term "moving forward" as it implies that, while life goes on, our loved ones are still with us in our hearts and minds. 

  • Dear limbo 

    Your post made me break down in tears of absolute grief. But a positive release of inner tention. THANK YOU XX 

    I feel so guilty saying what I wrote about  my Anne. She was no psychopath.Simply a strong independant woman who came from a family that had problems from time to time. ( I'm being politically correct here)   It was my anger and frustration venting itself. My goodness what complicated creatures we are .

    Love and Light 

    Geoff 

    At the end of all our journeying will be to find ourselves back where we started knowing the place for the first time. TS ELIOT.

  • Dear Mel 

    Thank you so much for putting my post into perspective xx.

     Goodness, folk like yourself are a life saver, believe me. I regret calling Anne on the psychopathic or autistic cycle. It was my frustration and anger talking. Everything you said makes complete sense. No relationship ever runs smooth. What complicated us creatures are.

    Love and Light 

    Geoff

    At the end of all our journeying will be to find ourselves back where we started knowing the place for the first time. TS ELIOT.

  • Hi Geoff,

    I agree with what both Limbo and Mel have said above.  There are always waves in relationship, or indeed life and yet we learn to make the most of the good times. I don't want to re-write history and just remember the good times, its just not healthy and realistic.

    I too have reflected on the bad times and for, me it's about the way we moved forward together that counts.  It's made me the person I am now.

    In fact, I am no longer an angry person, but angry I was in the past, at times.

    The waves of grief have been prominent over the last year and a bit.  Like our relationship, there have been ups and down.

    So, now it's about the way I move forward and make the most - from a healthy and realistic perspective. It is what our loved ones would have wanted for us.

    With lots of love,

    Dutsie Xx