Not more ****!

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Hiya all, sorry about this, but i need to get out of me, whatever it is im feeling,-& i always do that by writing. I'm really writing this for myself....helps me to get it out-it's carthartic for me-i love writing, plus it helps to get it out; well does for me........ 

Im sure those of you who read it, are aware that about three fridays ago tomorrow->(6/11/'09)<, my son 'broke out' with his friends, & came home in such a state that it ended up with me calling the ambulance-which led to the paramedic phoning the police....etc- you all read it: son ended up in hosp, then was allowed home after a while-the police bought him back.

My son was hallucinating-he kept saying 'things', & thinking he was somwhere else, & that other people were there, he was also sweating, -so i had no option but to call paremedic.

Today, after literally walking through the front door to my home, the police were knocking on it. Seems that suddenly, three weeks later, the paramedic has injuries, & has made formal complaint? 

Paramedic  told me he was fine when he left mey home! He was....I was sober when ALL this happened-I know EXACTLY what happened-my son was not compliant with ambulance guy, cos he didnt know who he was, or even where he, (son himself was)!  He was hammered, & hallucinating. Paramedic knocked my son to the floor, cos of sons vebal aggression, within less than a min of entering my home. He called the police, because, as he said to  me & i understood perfectly, he needed to treat my son, but needed support from police. He also ASSURED me son wasnt going to get 'knicked', they  (police) were just to help back him up, & help to get son into hospital.

Now, son's in hospital at moment, (2nd time since that 'incident' for infection & IV antibiotics) I havent told him about this at all with police. He is down enough, without this. He's stuck in a hosp sideward, alone & down in himself/worrying about what we'll hear on Monday. 

We'll be finding out results from minibeam chemo, monday- 8 /11/ '09....That is big enough in itself-let alone, what he willl be facing, regaurds cure, & where we go next, cure wise), after that meeting...& this is just too much for him.

It's too much for me, & i havnt been pumped full of chemo for nearly 2yrs! I am not 21 & facing my mortality-& feeling 'tired & worn down' about everything!

The best thing that could happen to my son now  is good news; not an interrogation down the cop shop-(he's MEANT to avoid potential 'germy places) -Cells/dirty;  cop shops, are dirty ol holes- They're bang outa order! My Son hasnt got a criminal record-nothing, he's very proud about that; he's not a threat! I live here with him, im not threatened!

He had ambition before all this, now it's like he doesnt care, cos he is that down in his own self-he needs support, not more damn pressure!

Even IF there is a case to answer, surely they could let him EXPLAIN after all this, once he's cured, & he's feeling strong again; not all this now!

I dont know-I know my son was outa order for shouting a paramedic, but I did thank paramdic, & he said it was fine before he left with son in ambulance.....

Sometimes you feel like you cant take anymore, then more comes!

My other bugbear is the way plod bloke said "..if he's well enough to go out drinking and getting drunk with his friends, he's well enough to go to the station"!! (QUOTE)!

I did ring Cathy, oncology/macmillan nurse-she took 'officers' number, & hopefully put this off-or stopped it. They took him to hosp he's in now, so i may 'mooch' around paramedics tomorrow when i visit, see if i can see him, find out what's going on....

I had to write this, & cheers anyone who wants to read it!-It's my rant, my anger, my bloody frustration! Here we are again, i'm him his Mum,should be able to help-but i cant. I feel so useless. I cant do anything, to do something, to get him out of something i got him into, (in a roundabout way)!

When the plod were in my home today, they gave me a card, even when i said he's in hospital, they didnt listen to me, overspoke me reallyI  said id would have to ring in a week-if son's out within that week, i have to ring, so they'll come, & take him down there...it's cold in them places too! Cant they see he's going through enough?- & I f I dont, they'll come and arrest him!

I said to them, ok, whatever paramedic said is wrong with him, I did-I said nick me, I did whatever paramedic said....they didnt want me tho...But if I just stick to that story....saves a lot of grief for my son.....

Anyway- rant over! I feel alot better for getting that out!

Hope whoever is reading this, is the best they can in themselves... :-)

Yep, i'd be the first to defend a paremedic/nurses/docors-all those who work to help others, against physical, (& verbal), attacks....But my son DID NOT hit the guy-the bloke was nearly half the size of my son; as said, son wasnt 'with it', was acting 100% out of character!  If he'd hit him, matey would be injured bigstyle, my sons big-but he isnt a violent young man...

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Hi, have you thought that your son may

    need counseling, and yourself as well, It

    seems from what your saying here that

    you are both finding the treatment your

    son is having very hard to cope with, and

    you dont seem to have any support. Also

    this is making you son very angry and

    aggressive. Its understandable that after 2years of treatment he feels he has had

    just about all he can take, but going out

    getting drunk is not going to help his

    situation, in fact it will make him more depressed. For a young man that cant

    be the same as his friends and do what

    thy do when he is feeling so unhappy its

    not fair, but as you say he is an adult now and whatever he has been thru he must take responsibility for what he does,

    Your his mum and you love him, but he

    is making you suffer as well when you are trying to help him to live. Maybe you

    are not the one  he should be talking to

    about his feelings, you are to close to

    home, a counselor might be just what he

    needs , anyway think about it, talk to his

    doctor, explain that he is getting himself

    in trouble because he cant let his anger

    out  and face up to his cancer, this might

    be the kick up the butt he needs, and i

    dont mean that unkindly just being honest

    and most probably saying what you are

    thinking. Please let me know how things

    are going and if your son agrees to seeing

    someone.

    With Love Lucy Lee. xxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Oh, I feel really bad for you having read all this. I totally agree that the police and ambulanceman could be a bit more understanding and lenient in their approach to all this.

    I had a very similar situation a few years ago.  My daughter came home really drunk and collapsed on the couch.  I was unable to waken her and was terrified, so called for an ambulance.  Two women arrived and one started pinching her chest and rubbing her knuckles along the breast bone.  My daughter, unaware of what was going on brushed the paramedics hand aside and the two of them up and left, saying "we're not putting up with this".  I felt really embarrassed and apologised, but did think at the time that their reaction was a bit OTT.

    Now, I am no way excusing my daughter's behaviour, because she should never have got into that state in the first place, but she was going through a stressful time as I had cancer and was undergoing treatment.

    The upshot was that three weeks later the police arrived to charge my daughter with assault on a paramedic. WHAT! I witnessed what happened and like I said all she did was brush her hand away.

    Well, she did appear in court and her lawyer advised her to plead guilty as, apparently because I had apologised to the paramedic, this was seen as my agreeing to her guilt.  She did plead guilty and now has a criminal record, which has stopped her getting a couple of jobs.

    I completely understand that NHS staff are operating a No Tolerance policy, but a bit of common sense should prevail.

    I sympathise with your son and feel awful for you. As a mother I completely understand how you feel.

    I hope your son is feeling much better soon and that the results from his appointment on Monday are favourable.

    Best wishes to you both, Christine xx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    tell your son to plead not guilty what ever the cops say or dont say....its your word and your sons word against the paramedic and thats not strong enough evidence to find him guilty of anything....unless the paramedic has photos to show any bruises or marks that he says your son caused..your daugfhter should have pleaded not guilty as well christine r....infact she should have said she woke up to find someone rubbing there hands on her chest and pinching her there as well, that she thought someone was touching her up...she should have had a decent solicitor by the sound of it..tell you son to go to the police station with a doctor who will say he is to ill to be put in a police cell.or if they try and put him in the cells tell your son to demand to see a doctor because he feels sick..unless they have solid evidence against your son it will get thrown out of a crown court...

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Im sorry if this offends ( and no doubt it will) i have never been in trouble with the police but i think their attitudes stink. I remember being out one night and on the way home there was a semi consious lad of about 15yrs old on the ground. The police were so rude to him, and were standing the poor kid up to give to his mates to get him home. Im afraid the police officers swearing at this kid prompted me to tell the officer what an utter disgrace i thought he was and how disgusted i was to see such treatment of another human being. The kid wasnt giving any grief, he was just drunk. I wish i had of had a pen to write down the officers name and details because i have regretted ever since not reporting him. I know there must be some good ones but i think some drastic changes need to be made, i would love to have a little more respect for them but unfortunately it leaves me thinking not.

    i hope it works out for you and your son.

    take care

    anna

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Arrrrrrrrrrrrgh,

    Bad to worse.

    Hope this resolves. My gut feeling is that he probably needs a sollicitor with him when he reports to the station. Bet getting solicitors out of their offices is expensive (based on my experience of trying ot talk to them in their offices).

    Hope the results of the beam are good,

    Adam