Clinical Trial Request For Dad

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Hi all,

I joined a while back and haven't posted but have read a lot of posts.  My Dad is 66 and has prostate cancer with a Gleason score of 7 and a recently clear bone scan.  He has started hormone therapy and will begin radiotherapy in a few weeks.  He has been asked to consider joining a clinical trial sponsored by Cancer Research regarding PIVOTAL BOOST which is a trial looking at different ways of giving radiotherapy for prostate cancer.  The various streams of the trial could have increased side effects as more of the bladder/bowel is exposed to radiation but it could reduce the risk of the cancer coming back.  I've read the information from the hospital and think the increase side effects are worth the potential reduction in risk of recurrence if he can tolerate the radiotherapy well.  We won't know how this might impact him at the moment so it's hard to give a view on what is the best thing to do.  Obviously it is his choice but he has asked me for my opinion.  I wondered if anybody had any view/opinions/helpful comments they could share.  It's been such a rollercoaster of emotions over the last few months.  I still have small children so I've found trying to deal with the news quite overwhelming at times.

  • Hello

    gleason seven with no break outs is very curable, these new trials are coming out all the time, I had radiation prostitis with radiotherapy but it took four years to show, I always wonder why they do not use the new proton beam, it’s accurate and barely touches anything but the prostate.

    I had my radiotherapy when I was sixty five, but with a Gleason score of 9/10 I took everything they could throw at me, still here with seventy looming in a few months, did he have chemo ? Not that he would need it, has anyone gone with your dad to listen to what treatment they have ?

    Stay safe

    Joe

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    FormerMember in reply to joeven

    Hi Joe, thanks for the reply.

    He doesn't need chemo at the moment which is good. He has had a lot of contact with the consultant via telephone because of covid restrictions and has taken notes but I do wish I was there to ask questions. When its about yourself I think its hard to do that. He has a long term partner who will support him as well. The radiation complications do worry me with this trial given the potentially larger exposure area. I hope you're doing ok. That is good news your big birthday is looming! Thanks again

  • Hi RP 

    I'm normally for clinical trials but a bit wary of this one.

    Firstly I think that CTrials are good for  incurable PC  but it sounds like he is low risk with 7 Gleeson, I assume PSA low as well. Also contained within the gland 

    The main thing that I would worry about is potentially extra side effects from this trial.

    The latest Radiotherapy works really well with minimal side effects and should cure his PC 

    Just my opinion, see what others say.

    Steve

  • The major problems of radiotherapy are bladder and bowel issues in the long term, and I'd personally be wary of a treatment that increased that risk. But maybe I'm biased: I had radiotherapy for a T3a almost seven years ago, and so far (touch wood!) I've had no bladder or bowel issues, and no signs of the cancer coming back.

    With what I know now, I'd be asking:

    1. what is the % risk of recurrence after radiotherapy for your dad's PCa (Stage T2? T3a?)

    2. have they considered spaceOAR (discussed elsewhere!)?

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    Heinous

    If I can't beat this, I'm going for the draw.

    Meanwhile, my priority is to live while I have the option.

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    FormerMember in reply to Grundo

    Thanks Steve, I think his last psa was about 17 but you've got a good point with the Gleason score and the containment within the gland. I dont want to expose him to more radiation that is absolutely necessary.

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    FormerMember in reply to Heinous

    Thanks Heinous, I dont know the stage actually. He's just contracted covid today so another thing to deal with! I'll have a research of the space OAR and clue myself up on it. He would hate to have long term bladder/bowl issues. I know nobody enjoys these things though!