Hi everyone, just after some advice as my 78 year old father has just recently had his mri letter as just after some help with the findings.
My father is a very fit for his age and says he feels fine, he just recently put a 12 panel 6ft fence up all by himself with out me knowing he is quite worried about this but really don't like to talk about it or ask questions. We went through this in 2021 where he had a high psa test then mri and thankfully a biopsy came back as benign.
This time seems worse though and the area before that was benin seems to have grown. Any advice on the reading would be helper as my father had a telephone call and said he really couldn't understand what was being said. Thank you everyone.
PSA 12
PREVIOUS Aug 2021 prostate biopsy
No PIN or invasive malignancy is found.
MRI prostate 17/10/25:
Comparison made with the previous MRI prostate 27/06/2022.
Prostate spans 5.4 cm cc x 3.5 cm AP x 5.2 cm in width giving a total estimated prostatic volume of 51 ml with a PSA density of
0.23ng/mL/cc.
No T1 hyperintensity to suggest haemorrhage.
The prostatic nodule within the left transition zone demonstrates interval enlargement and now contains T2 intermediate signal
material, which restricts and his suspicious, PIRADS for (2 o'clock to the 4 o'clock position).
Elsewhere within the right gland base, is a restricting focus at the 9 o'clock position of the right posterior transition zone, also
PIRADS 4.
Small focus of diffusion restriction within the anterior left transition zone of the mid gland (12 o'clock position) in keeping with a
PIRADS 4 lesion.
No enlarged pelvic lymph nodes.
There is a focally restricting lesion within the right pubic tubercle, concerning for metastatic deposit.
Small anterior diverticulum within the bladder. Otherwise unremarkable appearances of the bladder and anorectal junction.
Hi Moke and welcome
Initially I have a few questions
PSA 12 in 2021, presume he has had PSA done on many occasions since then, do U have any figures.
Has he had another biopsy or is it just the one.
What does the specialist say about the MRI and what was the PSA at time of recent MRI
Regards
Steve
Welcome to this group, although I am pretty sure that being a member of this group was not part of your wishes for this year.
Please note that most of us are not medically qualified, but have gained some knowledge by virtue of lived experience.
None the less I recognise some of this. It is not all information that you would want.
A PIRADS 4 lesion "indicates a high likelihood that a suspicious area in the prostate is a clinically significant cancer". This needs further investigation. There is more than one of these.
There is the possibility of a spot or lesion on the pubic bone.
Both of these are worrying in and it is likely that your Father will be offered a new biopsy.
My own thought is that he should accept this sooner rather than later.
A comforting thought may be that there are treatments available for all stages of prostate cancer, so this is not the end, even if the biopsy results confirm a problem.
Steve
Changed, but not diminished.
The psa for this mri was 12, they have monitored his psa on a percentage rate. This is the highest its been. When he had his last biopsy it was 6 then
March 21- 9.36
Nov 21.- 4.67
May 22 - 12
Aug 22 - 6.21
Oct 23 - 6.2
May 24 - 6.9
Nov 24 - 11
Mar 25 - 8.8
Lasted one September 12.
He has only had one biopsy back in 2021. He said the consultant didn't really say much at all and said we will know more after a biopsy.
Hello Moke275727c283
A warm welcome to the group although I am so sorry to find you joining us.
This is a peer to peer support group and none of us are medically trained and we all work from our own journey through this cancer so from my "limited knowledge" I can tell you:
* A PSA of 12 is high for dad's age - it should be around 6/6.5 maximum.
* A PIRADS-4 score on a prostate MRI shows the MRI has a clear view of the prostate and that the chance of there being cancer present is high.
The transition zone is where you find BPH (Benign enlargement) but my reading of the scan is that the scan now shows that this is now potentially a T2 cancer.
I would anticipate the next step to be another prostate biopsy.
Personally with dad being as fit as you say and the cancer being possibly low grade and contained within the Prostate I wonder if Active Surveillance would be better for him where he is checked every few months (I am not a fan of this but it would give him a better quality of life than invasive or medication treatment with side effects).
Only my personal thoughts but something to consider. I hope my ramblings help.
Best wishes - Brian.

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The previous mri was a PIRADS-4 lesion and we were expecting in tho come back as cancer but the biopsy cambe back a benign, thia does seem to have got bigger since the last mri and biopsy.
He is currently waiting for the biopsy so hopefully shouldn't be too long. He does say he feels fine not even really getting up in the night. His psa as always been up amd down that why no mri before now.
Hello Moke275727c283
Personally another biopsy and aim for the sections of the prostate where the MRI was showing the PIRADS 4 readings.
If they can't easily get to these with a TP biopsy (Tran-perennial) then it should be a biopsy under general anesthetic. I think they need to find out if there is some cancer in the gland.
Best wishes - Brian.

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Hi is having it under ga this time as he said it was too uncomfortable last time so hopefully that helps them find what they need to.
Does seem a bit of a strange one, PSA moving around quite a lot although not particularly high
Normally the MRI tells you the most info, like tumour size and if located within the gland although I assume it is as PSA not high.
If it was me I would be asking them more about the MRI, is it actually showing a tumour and if so the size in mm
Best wishes
Steve
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