Underwear on or off Update

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Hi all

Since my original post below All last week and the Friday before i have not been asked to take my underwear off only down to the base of my dick, i have also been told by several Radio Therapists that is absolutely no reason to remove pants for this type of treatments

Keep your dignity

Original post below

I'm currently having Prostate radio beam Therapy at St James Leeds, this will consist of 20 treatments, Ill start by saying I’m one of the lucky ones who cancer was discovered at the early stage been a 3 - 4 =7.

So the day before the treatment was due to start someone from the hospital called me to ask if I would be going to which I said yes and to ask if I had any questions about the treatment, I had a couple of questions as so

Q I live les then 5 minutes cycle ride from the hospital so do I have to arrive so early to drink the water and let it filter through to my bladder

A yes as we need to monitor you to ensure you drink the water. OK I’ll do that

Q I have read on some forums that men who have been treated in Leeds have asked to keep their underwear on and have been able to do so, can I.

A Yes you can as the tattoo are below your belly button then in your pubic region so as long as you lower them down to the base of your penis so the can see the tattoo then yes but we would prefer you to wear briefs rather than boxers as they may hide the dots on your thighs.

My reply OK thank you, as they need to find the tattoo in my pubic  region il'l remove the hairs to help as i'm quite bushy in that area, she replied saying its not something i have to do  but she was sure they would appreciate it

Before anyone says they have seen it all before. They haven’t seen MINE also been naked would make me feel embarrassed and vulnerable, on the first visit I had been able to keep my pants on without any questions which was lucky as I needed to discuss the schedule with the Radio Therapist who followed me back to the changing room telling me to carry on getting changed whilst she looked at the appointment schedule, I commented in a light hearted manner saying had I not kept my pants on this would have been very embarrassing, with her saying I haven’t got anything she hadn’t seen before, I corrected her on this point explaining that I did have something she wouldn’t have seen before, after I explained why mine was different she agreed saying that indeed she had not seen one like mine before

However on the 4 visits I have made so far two of the visits have been a real hassle  on one occasion I got changed but when the. Assistant saw I still had my pants on, said they prefer me to take them off, I replied I prefer to keep them on she said wait there then what I presume was the male radiographer came into the room saying the assistant had reported that I had my pants on saying he prefers me to take them off, I replied I prefer to keep them on, as it had not been an issue the day before I couldn’t understand why it was an issue now.

When they took me through to the treatment room i laid on the bed then  lowered my pants to the base of my penis, however felt them been pulled further down until I was no longer covered this made me feel very vulnerable so I instinctively pulled them beck up to the base of my penis which is where they stayed, so in my mind he got what they wanted which was to embarrass me.

On another occasion

I was on the bed with two women attempted to move me into just the right position the assistant who had called me through said you have your pants on, I replied saying I had asked to keep them on, she then spoke to me like I was a child saying that I would have to take them off I replied that I would not take them off as there was no need to do this and it would make me feel embarrassed and vulnerable, she said ok but from tomorrow I would not be keeping my pants on and would have to take them off when getting changed I replied saying this would make me feel very uncomfortable and vulnerable, which I suddenly began to feel, she replied as though she was talking to a child that I shouldn’t feel uncomfortable, shy or vulnerable in hospital as they are there to look after me, then reiterated that from tomorrow no underwear, I replied saying that’s not going to happen she reiterated again no underwear with me repeating myself saying that’s not going to happen, as they could complete the treatment with me keeping my pants on and that the lady on Tuesday had not taken issue with this so why had she.

Today i was feeling down and a little depressed, however i did find some NHS guidance which says you can keep your underwear on as they only need to be lowered to the base of the penis which i intend to print out ready for Monday as if this carries on i'm not sure i will be able to carry on having the treatment

Well done if you got this far has anyone got Any thoughts.

  • Hi  , I guess if it bothers you that much you should be allowed to keep them on.  Maybe they are worried in case you have any piercings? How did you cope with the biopsy out of interest?  As the RT is way above the base of the penis just keep repeating your feelings to them.  Eventually they will stop asking!  David

  • Hello  

    We are all different and I have been through much more treatment than you and personally I have no dignity now. I am (and have had to) get my kit off for anyone, and am happy to do so as it to my advantage - they are looking after my health!!

    During my radiotherapy (which was at Oldham) we had a few radiographers which for religious reasons asked you to pull your underwear down and cover up with a large paper towel. 

    Personally I think you need to speak to the department head and ensure the staff are all aware of the correct protocol.

    I wish you well with the rest of your treatment.

    Best wishes - Brian.

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  • Hi David 

    Thanks for your reply. Regarding the Biopsy My thoughts are that if you HAVE to be undressed fore something such as a Biopsy then you have no choice, Many workers in the NHS have seen my bits as i also had Testicular Cancer back in 1998 so there was no avoiding been undressed for that, my point is, if you do not need to remove your underwear then i would much prefer to keep them on.

    I also hope that some one ells who is about to under go treatment reads this post and they will be better informed of whats necessary   

  • HI Millibob

    Thanks for your reply, please reed the answer i just posted to David. You should always keep your dignity, I have been through my fair share of operations on my balls 6 I believe from the age of 19 up to the age of 53 one resulting in anOrchiectomy due to cancer Believe me i still have my dignity.

    Would you expand your answer regarding the religious purposes

  •   I probably slightly misunderstood your question and thought you were just shy, my apologies.  I think Brian’s suggestion is good, talk to the head radiographer and get a formal answer (which I suspect will be to be that you are able to keep your pants on) and then get them to mark your notes accordingly.  David

  • Hi David

    After the second occasion the assistant was all appolagies as there had been a mark on my notes all along, its not just what was said ts the way they talk to you, I intend to take the NHS Guidance with me on Monday and put it in the face of anyone who has a problem with me keeping my pants on.

  • Hello ClubLeeds,

    I also had RT at St James, in 2014. No-one ever said to me that the pants had to come off, at each visit I'd lay on the table and they just pulled the front down so they could see the small tattoo dots to line things up. 

    Derek.

    Made in 1956. Tested to destruction.
  • Hi and thanks for your reply

    I have prepared some hand outs to staff who say pants off as so 

     NHS logo here 

    During prostate radiation beam therapy, patients will typically be asked to lower their underwear to facilitate proper positioning and treatment. This is a standard procedure to allow radiographers to accurately align the treatment area with the radiation beam. Patients are typically covered with a modesty cover or towel during this time to maintain privacy