Didn't think it could get any worse (Gleason 10!)

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Been a while since I have checked in and I would like to say thank you for all the messages I received on my welcome post.

It has been a stressful couple of weeks. I had my biopsy a week before Christmas, which meant we wouldn't hear anything for a few weeks.

I had my appointment with hospital on the 8th Jan so we could get the results and also get my first hormone jab (been on the tablets since November) and we weren't quite ready for what we were going to be told.

Gleason Score of 10 and also small cell neuroendocrine components. Devastated is an understatement on how me and my wife felt.

To have this thrust on you out of nowhere when you are 45 is soul crushing. The feeling that my parents might have to bury me is numbing. The emotions the last few days have been raw and their have been a lot of tears.

But that changes now. We are pulling our socks up (well as far as I can get them, since my left foot and leg is swollen Laughing ) and we are pushing forward. My wife is chasing the hospital so we can get our appointment with Oncology so we can start kicking this things arse!

It is going to be a journey as the neuroendocrine is going to mess up some of the treatment options and I know it isn't curable, but I plan to be around for a few more years.

Cheers.

  • Hi there

    my husband( also Gleason 5+4) is on the triplet therapy with chemo and NUBEQA starting in September last year. He's just finished chemo - the first cycle was the worst, then after a chat with the consultant the anti emetics were adjusted and he was much better for the rest, fatigue being the main issue. Hair loss didn't start till the second or third cycle. Chemo now finished and we wait for the consultant appointment to tell us how well it worked. Hope the chemo effects calm down for you.

  • Great that he's completed his Chemotherapy - All the best for his results when you have your appointment with his consultant.

    Best wishes - Brian.

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  • Hi downloaded 

    If he’s lucky like me, his hair will grow back again, chemo can take a little while to get out of the body, being a Gleason 9+ myself, 

    faigue is a devil plus tiredness, but he’s done the hard part, does he have any radiotherapy due ? I had mine a month or two after chemo let my body recover. 
    Keep us informed he’s done well, lots of years in him Thumbsup

    Stay safe

    Joe

  • Hi.  Thank you for posting an update.  I had my second chemo yesterday so four more to go. Not too much of an issue with the first - bit aching legs, bit of a chemo mouth which sorted after day 10, but tea tastes creamy. Hair loss started at day 14 - mostly on the top and then it was the longer hair. Consultant phoned to confirm that bloods were ok for the second session. I asked about follow up scans after chemo finished.  He advised that this would be left for a period of time, as any improvement in bone metastases will take a while as the medications are not immediate, and I get that - I suspect that you’ll be advised the same.  PSA still coming down which is encouraging. 310 start, then, 9, then .97 and the one last week at .44.  Sleep has been affected by the steroids with some nights only 3-4 hours, followed by the odd six hours. I’ve mentioned the detail so other readers can see my progression with Gleason 9 (5+4), the same score as yourself. 

    Hope all goes well with your consultant.

  • I would add that if someone tells you that someone else is on your case and you can be sure all is underway then ask them for the contact details of that someone else. Call them just to be sure they are on the same page as the person who told you they were. Also get the phone number of the secretary of the specialist. The secretaries are quite often the only ones sitting by a phone and can be super helpful.

  • We were told that there would be no further scans after chemo as they relied on the Psa test. Can't say I am happy about it but other than perhaps paying for a scan privately then not much else we can do.

  • Hi.  Just following up.  Have you met with the consultant yet ? My understanding is that NUBEQA, in working with ADT to prevent testosterone getting to existing cancer sites i.e. bones, enables bone skeleton to repair itself. That being the case it would be quite reasonable to expect a follow up bone scan to see the effect of treatment and bone improvement.  I also understand that it is likely to be at least three months following chemotherapy treatment before any bone improvement can be expected to be seen on a scan - I would like one to see that the treatment has worked - psychologically good for a patient.  A PSA number is just a number - just says you’ve got no testosterone.