Vaccinations - Flu and Covid

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Hello everyone

I would value your opinion on the following.

I have started being re-Vaccinated after my STC and have also been offered the seasonal Flu and Covid, from early October. 

I was planning to have F & C anyway, as recommended 3 months, after the STC, by the hospital. Although I was nervous about the Covid as previously, way before MM, it made me really sick and I had a horrible headache for days.

I did mention to another friend yesterday, who has another type of blood cancer, and she is NOT having either and would rather avoid crowds during the winter season. Her reason being, she does not want the side effects the vaccines ‘may’ give to her. I thought when she was talking that even though you avoid crowds it is very difficult to avoid everyone during this time, and who would want to catch the real thing, in our weakened state.

I know everyone is different, but do you have these vaccines, and why/why not.

Thank you.

Jayne

  • Hi LadyJayne,

    I am having seasonal flu and Covid vaccinations. I would note that a stem cell transplant causes the patient to have the immune system of a newborn baby, so you would have zero immunity from past flu of Covid infections. Also, your lymphocytes, which are a key part of your protection from viruses, are likely to be very low after a stem cell transplant. 

    In short, although I am not a medical professional, I suggest getting the vaccinations.

    I asked Google Gemini about the risks of you not having a Covid vaccine:

    "Without a COVID-19 vaccine, the main risks revolve around how severely your body reacts to the virus rather than whether you will encounter it.

    ​Because post-transplant recovery and low lymphocyte levels (lymphopenia) leave the immune system without its full viral defense team, an unvaccinated person in this context faces specific clinical risks:

    Higher Risk of Severe Illness and Hospitalization

    • Lack of Immunologic Memory: Vaccines train T-cells and B-cells (lymphocytes) to recognize the virus's spike protein without causing disease. Without this baseline training, an initial exposure requires the immune system to build a defense from scratch—a process that takes days or weeks that a compromised immune system doesn't have.
      • ​Unvaccinated individuals who contract COVID-19 have a higher statistical risk of developing "Long COVID"—persistent symptoms like chronic fatigue, brain fog, and lingering cardiovascular or respiratory issues that can last for months or years.​Severe Lower Respiratory Infections: Unvaccinated individuals are significantly more likely to develop severe viral pneumonia, severe acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), or require mechanical ventilation.
        • Secondary Bacterial Infections: Severe viral damage to lung tissue creates an environment where bacterial pneumonia can easily take hold—a danger that is compounded if neutrophil levels are also low.

        Higher Risk of Complications for Transplant Patients

          • Organ Stress and Rejection Risk: A severe viral infection causes systemic inflammation throughout the body. In transplant recipients, this intense inflammatory response can strain organs
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            • Higher Mortality Rate: Clinical data shows that immunocompromised and transplant patients who are unvaccinated have substantially higher mortality rates from COVID-19 compared to those who are vaccinated, even if the vaccine produces a somewhat muted response in immunosuppressed bodies.

            Increased Chance of Long COVID

            Treatment Delays: Catching a severe case of COVID-19 often requires pausing or adjusting necessary immunosuppressive or post-transplant medications, which carries its own medical risks.
          • Higher Mortality Rate: Clinical data shows that immunocompromised and transplant patients who are unvaccinated have substantially higher mortality rates from COVID-19 compared to those who are vaccinated, even if the vaccine produces a somewhat muted response in immunosuppressed bodies.

        Increased Chance of Long COVID

          • ​Unvaccinated individuals who contract COVID-19 have a higher statistical risk of developing "Long COVID"—persistent symptoms like chronic fatigue, brain fog, and lingering cardiovascular or respiratory issues that can last for months or years."

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