Doubts about recovery after the operation

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Hello,

I haven't introduced myself because I don't know whether I'll be a frequent visitor here or not; I'm sorry if it's wrong. I'm just a friend of someone who has been diagnosed with lung cancer. My friend is a very reserved man, and he hasn't told many people outside his family and very close friends. I'm even surprised he's considered me close enough to tell me. And I'm also surprised at how badly I've taken it as, although I certainly consider him my friend, he's a workmate I've known for just a couple of years. I hadn't realised I care so much about him (nothing romantic here!).

P was diagnosed with cancer in early May. When he told me about it, he said he was expecting a phone call for an operation at any moment, and we even said we might have to change some work-related plans we had for early June. However, time passed on and nothing happened. Meanwhile, our conversations were very general, as he doesn't seem to want to discuss the details and I feel shy about asking him if it's not him who wants to tell me about them. In late June I asked whether he knew what to expect about his sick leave, and he told me that the best case scenario was two months, and the worst one was not returning to work. Is it really possible to have so much uncertainty until after the operation, or was he just avoiding the topic?

Anyway, when our holidays started in August nothing had happened. We kept in touch by email, and all he told me is that he was still waiting. And then, on the 25th I got a WhatsApp message from him telling me he was in the ICU after the operation on the 22nd. He spent six days there, and then eight more until he was released from hospital. Apparently, the operation was difficult and risky, possibly more than normal, as P was already missing part of one lung because of a pneumonia ten years ago.

I have no information about the type of cancer, stage, complications, treatment after the operation... And I don't feel I have the right to ask. He told me that he had the staples removed in two steps, and that in the first one they removed 40 of them. This gives me an idea of how big his scar must be, and it may give someone who knows an idea of the sort of operation he's undergone.

P keeps me updated by WhatsApp, but I'd really like to phone him and suggest meeting up. I have no idea whether he'll be willing to do so, but if there's a possibility he may accept, I can't do it when it's completely untimely. With these data I've given you (and considering no two people are the same), when do you think it is safe to call him and be realistic about his ability to go out to have a cup of tea?

  • He's obviously secretive about it but if he's lost part of his lung at least it was operable, but when they say don't  do anything for 6 months they meen it as I tried to cut my grass with a hover mower and only managed a few feet(like a twat) but I would just say in passing  boss the treatment going then and wait for the reply,

  • Hi

    The only person who can tell you if he is up to or wants a visit is your friend himself. Unless you are his manager/supervisor, P is under no obligation to keep you informed.

    When I read your post my first thoughts were this person is the manager of P, and is looking for HR guidance as to what/what not can be done in this situation; was I correct?

    I hope P is recovering well.

    Kegsy

    "If you are going through hell, keep going" ; Sir Winston Churchill
    " Cancer may take my life; however it will not become my life" Kegsy August 2011
  • Hi,

    No, I'm not P's manager. We're workmates, government employees. I'm sorry if I may have sounded like someone wanting to know whether I can take some steps to fire P, or the like. I'm not sure what you thought when you read my message.

    I do know P has no obligation to keep me informed, but he has chosen to do so. He hasn't given me as many details as I'd like, but I know that's his choice, and I'm grateful he considers me worth of sharing this part of his private life with me, no matter how small a part of it it is. That's why I feel shy about asking him how he feels or whether he would like to have a cup of tea. When he feels well enough, he might ask me if he wants, and I do consider the possibility of his not wanting, which is OK if it makes him feel better. Actually, all I want to do is tell him I'm here if he ever wants me. But I want to tell him when there's at least a chance that he will consider the possibility, even if not immediately, and not just toss my WhatsApp message away as something completely untimely. And I have no idea whether that may be now, in two weeks, or in two months.

    Actually, as I said, I've known about his cancer since May, shortly after he had it confirmed by three different doctors. Our superior hasn't known until after the operation. P sent him an email from the ICU to tell him he'd had a "major operation" and didn't expect to come back for "several months". That's all he said.

    Clearly, P told our superior the minimum amount of information because he had to (even though we all have an excellent working relationship, and P is considered one of the most committed, hardest-working individuals in our office). And, of course, I can't share with anybody else what I know, which is much more.

    Maybe it's this having to cope with it all alone which is making me feel so lousy. I don't want to appear melodramatic, as I know P is just a friend and not a family member, and it's him and not me who's got cancer, but I've been crying every day when I get home since I returned from my holidays and he's not at the office. I simply cannot look at his empty desk. And if four days go by without a WhatsApp message from him, I start freaking out, thinking he's had some complication or whatever. I had a good cry when he first told me he had cancer, and then things seemed to settle when the weeks went by and nothing happened. But now it's all back again.

    I've been reading many other posts here, and I realise how silly I must sound compared to what people around here say, but I'm really finding this situation overwhelming. Maybe all I can do is wait until P suggests meeting up, if he does (though I would hate it if he thought I haven't suggested it myself because I don't really care about him).

  • >>if he's lost part of his lung at least it was operable<<

    I realise this is optimistic. Thank you. I've been lucky to be spoiled in the sense that I've never had anyone close to me with a serious illness, and I am really completely at a loss with what's going on. I understand that starting with an operation may be a good sign. I needed this.