Hi All
I am new here and hoping for some more information, also whilst awaiting diagnoses I have been doing a lot of googling, and found so little on my type. Especially in my age group. Most posts about mine seem to be on behalf of older relatives. Apparently it's rare, and rare as hens teeth in my age group. (34 year old female). So by sharing my story here I hope to raise awareness and should anybody find themselves where I am now, they can google for some information.
I just got diagnosed yesterday (Maundy Thursday).
I also want to raise awareness to get checked, if it's not normal for you, please do not dismiss it as I did and leave it and just think it's part of getting older.
I should start by saying I am slightly more complicated as I also have an autoimmune disorder called hidradenitis suppurativa (HS I call it as spelling and saying it is a mission). This is pretty harmless, extremely painful and embarrassing condition that causes abscesses in sweat gland areas. It is not relevant to my story so do not get hung up on it, other than it helped my cancer hide behind it as I blamed this for some of the symptoms.
I noticed some stinging type sensations under my arm initially, this is not abnormal for me as I also get frequent cellulitis infections as part of my HS. It is my left axilla that is predominantly affected with the right rarely coming to the party. The stinging was on the right so I could not understand why I had no abscess, no bright red skin, no thickening. I dismissed it, it came and went intermittently I kept an eye but it never came to anything.
Around August 2017 I then noticed sleeping at night was uncomfortable to lie on my right side. This went on for a while at least a month or two and wasn't improving. I had gone numb where I was getting the stinging under my arm. Again I did not think too much of this as I had had numerous surgeries to drain abscesses and had noticed nerve damage/loss of sensation in the badly affected left so assumed it was that.
I had also been getting a lot of headaches, which I had mentioned to the doctor previously, they ran bloods and said I was low normal so put me on iron to boost me a little. This did stop the headaches.
Another thing I had noticed and was rather annoyed about is embarrassingly I did not link it and despite them saying always get checked and I didn't. My right breast had changed shape slightly. I felt like I looked a bit sagged, not being by any means are large chested woman I was most put out, but just thought ah that is what they mean about your 30s.
My other weird quirky symptom which again I didn't link is I suddenly started suffering from indigestion/belching which I had never ever had problems with in my life. I just got some indigestion remedies to try and help.
The most scary symptom for me in these couple of months was on and off 3 times the whole right side of my face went numb for a few minutes at a time. It felt just like I had had a dental local anaesthetic. Half my tongue felt thick and floppy my nose was numb down one side and my cheek. At this point I started to google and freaked myself out as it kept saying potentially MS for my symptoms. (just the numbness I didn't think to link the rest at this point). I had also noticed the numbness across my chest and at times down my arm in to my little finger and ring finger.
October 2017 I finally I went to my doctor about another one of my friendly abscesses and brought up the pain in my right chest/numbness across my chest and back of my arm and numbness of face. He suggested a trapped nerve. I was referred for an xray.
I had this the report said I had a very slight narrowing between two neck vertebra and a bone spur. Accepting this must be the cause I went to a chiro to resolve. My insurance would fund 4 sessions which I had and only felt mild benefits.
I went back to the GP and asked what to do for the best, there had been mention of an MRI but as the Chiro had mildly helped I went for physio which was unlimited on my insurance.
I had seven sessions in total, in the middle I had 3 sessions of acupuncture in one week and that really made me feel better I was getting more and more pain by now and so fed up as I had gone in October and it was now January/February. I thought finally I would be fixed, then we slowed back down to once a week and the pain was intolerable again.
The physio agreed he had done all he could and referred me back to my GP and pain specialist who would organise an MRI and maybe an injection to the nerve if needed.
I sore the pain man who was lovely, organised an MRI of my neck suspecting a protruding disc. February 2018 I went for my MRI so relieved I would finally be getting fixed. He said that a couple of my symptoms didn't fit that diagnosis but some people are wired differently, He also said that after six months a protruding disc should have healed itself by now, or very near to it.
It was a Wednesday and I was to meet with him the following Monday to discuss. Within half an hour of getting out of the MRI I had a text to ask me to go that evening to see him and bring someone with me. It was at that point my world came crashing down. I knew I was in for bad news and something serious had been found. I was very tearful at first but then went into a seriously calm slightly surreal state about it.
I went to see him as requested and he was gutted I could tell to tell me that the MRI of my neck had actually picked up a mass on the Apex of my lung. I now know that this is a Pancoast Tumor and that it ties exactly with my symptoms.
Also in hindsight looking at my MRI and comparing it to my Xray, it was there all along on my Xray and it was missed! It should have been found 4 months earlier. I am angry about that at times, but also realise being angry won't change it. It was missed and a four month earlier diagnosis could have made all the difference. I had read tumours double in size in four months. But it wasn't and it can't be changed.
He advised I would need to go for several more MRIs of my brachial plexus, thorasic inlut, my spine, chest and head ( I had also been getting a lot of headaches so they were now being ultra precautious). with contrast and a thorasic CT with contrast.
These showed the mass as suspicious and of about 9cm with enlarged lymph nodes.
I was then referred for lung function tests, blood tests a lung biopsy and a PET scan which I had to travel to the UK for was we have limited facilities in my small island.
The biopsy confirmed it was positive for cancer, I have Adenocarcinoma the most common type. The PET scan showed some other 'hot' areas areas for concern. So I need to have more tests, though the enlarged lymph nodes in other areas I think will all be due to my HS as the areas are both Axillas, my groin (which I have had an ultrasound on and need to have a biopsy on to be sure) and my bowels, which seem fine but need a polyp removed, so likely what the scan was finding.
Providing none of these other areas are affected I am a stage III B and they believe at least an N2 as the node in right side looks malignant, so does the node of my Trachea and they are questioning the left side node which would make it an N3.
If it's spread elsewhere I will be a stage 4. Here is a post to how the TNM stages are spilt over the different stages and how they categorise them. cancer relief lung cancer stages
They believe due to the multi layer node involvement it is inoperable, which I am a little relieved about as it's major lung removing surgery and potentially ribs too.
I will have to go back to England to see the Oncology specialist there hopefully within a week or two, by which all my other areas results will hopefully be in. But all being well it looks like I will receive Chemoradiation. I have been told it will be the highest dose they give. Which is where my questions come in please, how long for, how often? We do not have radiation facilities where I am from so again this would have to be done in the UK. I need to plan around this life/animals/work etc and do not relish being in a place for too long where non of my home comforts or friends/family are.
Sorry it was long, I wanted it to be as informative as possible for anybody else going through a pancoast diagnosis.
But please the main point of my post was, laying all those symptoms together it's obvious, but them appearing separately over several months and being such a rare lung cancer (only 5% of all) and usually affecting men in their 60/70s I am the hen's teeth diagnosis that you see people dismissing all over the internet when people google and panic that they have shoulder pain. Get checked, if it's not normal for you, just check it out!
Hello Karen
im very sorry to hear that your CT is not great news but with so much now being done I certainly look forward to hearing that they’ve a plan for you.
I hope some rest will get you over your fatigue and that you will soon feel better.
nel
Well with scans outstanding and some important milestones coming up I was going to wait till I had it all so I could write a positive post... but.... it is not all positive.
My 'sell by date' for insurance claim is 30th June.
Return to work (from home) 1st July and CT was due on 3rd July.
I had head MRI Wednesday 23rd June. I did chase Friday as I wasn't sure and was told it hadn't been reported as yet. hmmm.
Well I got a call today as I need to bring my CT chest to pelvis to this Friday as they want to discuss me at the MDT next week in sunny Southampton....
There is a small area of concern around my original brain Met on the right hand side.... they have sent the MRI to Southampton to get them to look at it. Once they have the CT and the full picture they are talking about offering me stereotactic radiotherapy,,,,
So whilst everybody wants to fly somewhere, I really do not and likely I will have to. I would say I could meet you Chelle but I doubt that is possible with the virus... one day. Though it will more than likely be 2nd or 3rd week of July so you never know by then.
If so it should be a rather short trip over and home. You have a Primark in the town, but doubt I can go out.
They offer Covid test on return to Jersey airport so will get tested.
Planning to keep me on the immunotherapy for now.
I am assured it is small and caught extremely early and it doesn't mean that immunotherapy is not working for me, sometimes it may miss out some places.
On the bright side I may get my taxi driver that I liked in the past if he still works there. I will pack my mascara and perfume in case.
Ho hum it's a real bum
Hi
Good to hear from you, altho news v mixed. According to announcements today, lockdown is easing, incl for those who are shielding/ extremely vulnerable.so u may be able to meet up with Chelle?
I had stereotactic radiotherapy in 2013 on a solitary brain tumour which touchwood has behaved itself since. It's a painfree procedure - . I had 3 x 20 min sessions n almost fell asleep during them.
Thinking of you 'do let us know how you get on,
Sue x
Well another page in your book i think there using you to test all lung cancer equipment and I feel in the bottom of my heart that your going to once again come out on top of it ,your a bloody fighter same as me i refuse till my last day to give in so get ya case packed ready and o n you go always there for support so tell us how you get on mine is needing early scan due to pain in shoulder and arm feels like it's on the move but the wine and kebabs helpxx
Gina - God luv us, when I see those words Pancoast Tumour-My Story my heart drops to my feet, it a good job I’m here with lung problems not heart cos my heart wouldn’t take it all
Well there on it straight away and it’s getting discussed next week, that’s a good thing. Hopefully as you say it will be a short trip there and back, doesn’t get rid of the waiting though. On a plus you’re still getting your immunotherapy. Bet the taxi driver won’t recognise you this time, looking so fit and well
Well weve all known from day one you’re in good hands, so just get it done with
Ill go and get that cup of tea now
Now Gina, you can’t be that desperate to meet me to go to all these lengths !!
But my Goodness things are certainly sent to try you aren’t they. It’s good they are on top of things, and it sounds like this is a minor blip that just needs sorting.
Gina, both Julie & Chelle have said don't worry too much, they are right. They both said what a strong person you are, they are right. I know it's easy to say don't worry, we all do. But the hospitals are getting on with sorting it out so I'm sure you'll overcome this small hiccup.
You mentioned mascara & perfume, I think a new lippy wouldn't be amiss either. There is pleasure in shopping, even when it's got to be online.
With best wishes to you & everyone in this little corner of the site.
Artemisa
Hi Gina
ITs is very good news that they are keeping you on the immunotherapy and I have read many times that it does not cross the blood brain barrier and it seems many many ppl who are doing good on their immuno have to have separate treatment for brain Mets. The fact that they’ve caught it very early is very encouraging and I believe SNRT is very tolerable and successful.
it is truly an up and down course for us but I sure hope you’ll get all the info soon and they’ll get on with getting it sorted.
fully understand the reluctance to fly but take all possible precautions and all should be well
xx
Gina
You have this totally covered. I've l kept up with your story and you have totally inspired me and changed the way I view this bloody disease, how to challenge the perceptions around it and most importantly to me, how I can support my mum through her journey. Thank you for that.
It is bit of a bummer, but nothing you can't handle.
sending all the positive vibes to you.
Nicola
Buttercup - Thank you for your reassuring words. Hopefully mine will be as obedient. Full brain was nearly a year ago, so I guess it's been good enough till now. So zapping the little menace powerfully may be what it needs. I will loose a patch of hair again doh. I think because I need to fly over, I will be told to shield at apartment or similar (though out positive active cases are just 5 asymptomatic people here, and may well change or gone by the time I fly).
Poppy - Thank you, yes I often liken myself as a lab rat... the way it's going I will be able to post a response on many of the lung cancer treatments going on. Thank you for kind encouragement. I hope your scan goes ok and the results are promising. We are all here either way it goes to help.
Julie - They are used to me cracking the whip at their ankles so i doubt they would dare not to leap into action at my demands. I had a feeling the results weren't going to completely hassle free. My balance is slightly off when shaving legs in the shower. My hearing on and off here and there (worse after immunotherapy for a week so I was hoping to blame that). Poop. Never mind.
He may not, I have lost a fair bit of weight (though it is creeping back on now and hoping it will stop) and changed my hair. I will see if he remembers me. Last I sore him we had a whitney houston revival in the car. I have nothingggggggg don't make me close one more doooorrr... thankfully I didn't try and out sing the Whitney. Unfortunately there were two other passengers in the care so had to be good. Oh and the time after that my brother was my bag boy, but he may have thought he was my boyfriend. Doh.
Chelle - It would be so nice to meet you. We have spoken about it a few times and every time one of us has been feeling too off to do so and now we can't again. It's an all expenses paid trip over so you know, got to make the most of it.
Artemis - Thank you for your support and kind words. They are running a Macmillan jersey how to look good on zoom tomorrow. I was dilemmaring. Maybe if not too late I could sign up and get my practicing on.
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