Secondary Liver Cancer - Eventual Liver Failure and What to Expect

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Hi, my 63 year old father passed away this week as a result of secondary liver cancer, the primary was bowel cancer (which had also spread to his lungs, though the oncologists regarded the tumours on his lungs with far less concern than those on his liver). He was diagnosed with bowel cancer in 2007, after having almost no symptoms until the 11th hour (he was severely constipated for over a week all of a sudden, which led to severe vomiting, casualty, a hospital stay of two nights and 28cm bowel obstruction successfully removed and the results of the tumour take out were malignant - this was back in Autumn 2007).

 

Despite having two rounds of chemo over the two years, the first didn't work too well, the second did work in shrinking tumours but my father was taken of it on cycle 8 out of 12 as side effects of the drug threatened to kill him with a life threatening stroke or heart attack - he developed a blood clot on his lung. Signs of this clot were him not being able to lie down on his side one night, and a bit of pain there - though he never described that as agonising so be aware. The oncologist said that was an unusual reaction to the chemo drug.

 

He then was offered a little hope toward the end of this summer with the potential to go on a drug trial, with a renowned professor, though he was never accepted on this as it was deemed to dangerous in light of blood test results relating to liver function.

My father spent virtually all of his 2 years with cancer taking the dog on long walks, flying long haul to visit me in New York twice, getting on public transport, walking lots over there, going to the pub to meet his friends for a pint once a week, going on holidays to Scotland doing lots of walking with my mam, socialising with friends and family and retaining his friendly, cheerful, gentleman like demeanour. No tears EVER, no bad moods, no depressing talks or even mention of prognosis, perhaps a little more prone to tiredness than usual.

 

Fast forward to a month ago, when I came to visit him from NY - he was suddenly out of the blue a lot more tired and exhausted. He'd been taking steroids about 2 weeks prior to my visit and recently come off then. He was also on the blood thinner warfarin which needs careful monitoring. During my stay he was admitted to hospital, with suspect internal bleeding - they though the pain in his side was a result of misbalance of warfarin and perhaps the extreme tiredness as a result of suddenly being taken off steroids. He was immediately put back on steroids, and the warfarin adjusted - but no avail, as he continued to visit the his weekly warfarin clinic they just couldn't seem to get the balance of his dose right and his INR (which measures the clotting ability of his blood) was off the acceptable scale most of the time.

 

A misbalance of drugs masked the fact that liver failure was taking its effect. The whites of his eyes became slightly jaundiced about 3 weeks ago but just his eyes. As a week progressed his face was a shade of jaundice. He remained his normal self but VERY tired, and took tramadol the pain killer only occasionally (say every two days for a 'stitch like pain that wouldn't go away in his side').

 

I returned to New York, but last Saturday after knowing my Dad had been increasingly tired received a call from my mother saying Dad had been admitted to hospital. He'd had a bad nights sleep on the Friday night, was a little disorientated and on Saturday afternoon when the on call GP reached him at our home he failed a basic coordination test which involved aligning his hands together - the doctor said it was best to admit him into hospital for tests.

 

Dad was admitted to an 'acute care ward' as it was a weekend. I've since heard if it had been a weekday, they may have admitted him into a hospice for a night or two for assessment instead. He had a side room, and was the sickest on the ward by far - everyone else was in wards and were able to hold cups by themselves, talk in full sentences and achieve some sound sleep but not my Dad. By Saturday he was writhing on a bed grabbing the cot sides in pain, he was still talking but with one word answers or very short sentences. By Sunday I was on route to the UK on a plane, meanwhile my mother stayed up all night with my father as he was deteriorating so rapidly, he was down to one word answers and had to use a bedpan for the bathroom or a commode - he was bedridden. He was still taking his medication - steroids, pain killer, anti indigestion etc orally - they were all syrups and able to eat very soft food, like soggy wheatabix or ice cream which was one of the few things he seemed to enjoy at this stage.

 

I arrived on Monday morning at 8am, I took a deep breath and walked into his hospital room. He slowly, slowly turned his head to look at me, his eyes were deep yellow and his skin was a definite yellow, his face a little bloated and the dejected, fed up look in his expression was one of the most remarkable things. I'd never seen such suffering in a man right before my eyes in my life. I held it together for him, as I was conscious not to heighten any anxiety I'm sure he must have felt, told him I loved him and my Dad reach out to hug me and said 'good' in reply. He was totally lucid just so exhausted he was unable to express himself or his wishes properly.

 

As the day progressed my mother went home, leaving me with Dad as she had to urgently let the Macmillan delivery guys into our house to deliver a hospital bed, a commode, a table for a patient to eat off. It took until 5pm for the special ambulance to arrive and for his drugs to come from the pharmacy for him to be discharged. He was sent home with drugs suitable to administers via a syringe driver, for when he wouldn't be able swallow. The discharge process was a mess. He had a yellow prescription chart for the drugs for the driver which we had to take home, it had to be signed off by a Doctor - so a district nurse visiting our home could simply fit the syringe driver whenever my father reached the stage of not being able to swallow drugs orally. The nurses at the hospital checked over the form and said it was good to go - but we later discovered it wasn't, there was a second section which hadn't been signed off by a doctor.

 

After eating tiny spoonfuls of yoghurt on Monday evening and having deep sleep on Monday night, when my father 'woke up' (he wouldn't open his eyes and was in a semi coma, though he did scream out when carers handled his severely swollen legs to wash him) Most significantly he was unable to swallow drugs orally, and I had to waste a lot of time with phone calls back and forth to my GP's surgery to get district nurses out to him immediately (I was told to ring the nurses direct myself, the nurses told me for them to arrive as an emergency the GP had to dispatch them..) After time wasted with these calls the nurses arrived to tell me they could only count the drugs and could not administer them until the doctor arrived. Fortunately I made the judgement call to get the on call Doctor out as an emergency in addition to this, as I mentioned to her on the phone his breathing was becoming laboured and that we were NOT achieving the goal of making sure he was comfortable. It was around midday and he'd had NO medication just a droplet or two or oramorph the pain killer. The doctor arrived and completed the incomplete prescription chart. The driver was fitted, with the syringe in my fathers hand. I was told as it was subcutaneous it would take around 30 mins or so to kick in and the drugs given were a sedative (which I was most concerned with as I hated the thought of him panicking about dying and what the next step after death is), morphine for pain and anti sickness drug. The nurses and doctor left about 20 minutes later, and after a few moments my father opened his eyes for the first time that day and just stared as if unable to focus. My mother and I were holding his hands, kissing him, telling him he wasn't alone ever and how much we loved him. He then shut his eyes again and took his last few breaths, very peacefully..and that was the end.

 

This is a long story and still so fresh. His funeral hasn't even happened yet. I've learnt so much from it though and in short, I'd say that a most of the time liver failure will eventually become evident where a liver secondary is concerned.

First of all when jaundice comes, this is a sign of a build of a the waste product bilirubin in the blood, which the liver normally expels into the bowels - giving poo a brownish red colour. Poos become white, whilst eyes first then skin takes on a yellow tinge. Urine will become red looking, as if blood is in it - but the strong colour is the bilirubin. When these symptoms show, this means liver failure is already very WELL advanced. Dad was becoming exhausted complaining "I just want my energy back" - he didn't want to drive his beloved car or even get out of the car for a breath of fresh air when my mam drove to the beach to let the dog out. He couldn't manage a walk around the block, where as he could 2 weeks before he died. Severe tiredness is also a sign.

 

Then comes acute liver failure, at this stage Dad was becoming a little confused but remained totally lucid - the confusion was very subtle in his case - he'd ask the same question twice in a short space of time and went into the wrong bedroom after getting up for the toilet in the night (though my Mam had just swapped his bedroom to another room earlier that evening, so again subtle signs of confusion).

Eventually my Dad simply became too weak to talk, walk, sleep properly, eat or drink. He went from walking talking eating and drinking to being bedridden writhing in pain, unable to talk in a matter of 4 days. I also think he may have hung on longer suppressing his pain and demise waiting for me to arrive from the USA to see him. He was so brave in the face of it all and considerate to the end, looking pleased saying 'good' when I told him my mam and me were going to have a lie down after 2 days of no sleep the night before he died.

 

His legs were very swollen and so painful to touch he cried out when he was moved. He writhed around a lot unable to get comfortable and clung onto much needed cot sides of the hospital bed. The bed delivered to our home didn't have cot sides so we had to line up two arm chairs against it to stop him from falling out and my mam broke down in tears holding his swollen legs. I forgot to mention that only my mam and I were with him at home during discharge, I am in the third trimester of pregnancy and we were left alone with him at home in a state of discomfort until district nurses arrived at 8pm. Fortunately my uncle who's a GP arrived earlier and helped reposition him - you need 2 able bodied people to move and reposition a 12 stone sick man - you don't realise how much they writhe around into uncomfortable and potentially dangerous positions.

 

A consultant told my mam my Dad was dying on Saturday night but why a Macmillan nurse was not with us to over see his discharge I don't know. Our Macmillan nurse was lovely, but she came after my father passed away - about 30 minutes later. The Monday night before my father's death, he was watched by Macmillan carers NOT qualified nurses. They were lovely women - but it was so close to the end someone should have been on hand to inject him with a pain killer if needs be.

There was a big boo boo with his yellow prescription chart for the drugs administered by the syringe driver - no one took ownership over my Dad's case on the acute care ward at the hospital, and though some staff were exceptional - others were a little clueless tending to talking eating drinking patients in a communal ward, before my dying father in a side room alone with his pregnant daughter. He couldn't talk or eat properly, or drink without a baby's cup being held up to him. Some nurses just didn't use common sense or experience to set their priorities straight.

 

So my advice in short to anyone caring for a patient with a liver secondary which is terminal is:

 

Don't focus on prognosis -there are so many good times my Dad and I had while he had cancer, it didn't stop him from being him and enjoying life until right up until the end really ( I mean 3 weeks before his death).

 

Look out for any signs of liver failure - I mentioned them earlier such as the jaundice etc. When this comes you know the end isn't in the distant future - I'm talking weeks. At this stage be brave and get Macmillan and your assigned nurse as heavily involved as possible.

 

Look out for signs of acute liver failure - severe tiredness, the onset of which seems to happen quickly, very subtle signs of slight disorientation or confusion. It may just be being slower in response to questions or sounding unenthusiastic and a lot quieter than usual on the telephone etc. At this stage go through a checklist of equipment in your mind - you will want your loved one to be comfortable at home at the end and you will need things like:

a baby beaker to drink

straws

oral syringe

A large plastic washing up bowel to fill up with hot water to wash patient in bedside.

New Sponges

At least 3 new sheets for a single bed, patient is most comfortable with thin sheets.

2-3 fitted sheets for a single bed.

Clean towels.

Baby Wipes.

Antiseptic Wipes

Dentyl Alcohol free double layer mouthwash (helps with oral thrush common at this stage) - don't bother with this during the very later stages, you don't want the patient to swallow it.

Pineapple//Orange Juice

Ice-Cream

Favourite Foods

Bottled water Still

Little sponges on sticks to dip in water or pineapple juice to freshen and clean the mouth - district nurses

a bed pan - district nurses provide

catheter tubes - district nurses

Incontinence pads - district nurses

Ask Macmillan social worker about ordering a hospital bed WITH COT SIDES (essential), a commode and table to eat off that hangs over the bed, in advance.

Think about close family members that the patient would take comfort in having bedside for this harrowing experience. Deterioration will last not much longer than a week if acute liver failure sets in - although all patients are different, it's a given that liver failure can be as quick as 48 hours in some cases.

As signs of liver failure progress, to pain and restlessness you will need 2 able bodied adults to be present at all times to reposition and help lift the patient.

If a patient is in hospital or a hospice - you will need 2 able bodied adults to help settle the patient into their home on the day of discharge. If you don't have family or friends suitable for this very personal close experience, contact Macmillan and say you would like a nurse plus at least one carer present. Be pushy and adamant about this - your job is to hold the patients hand and reassure them, otherwise you'll be running round frantically making calls, searching for equipment and struggling to move the patient compromising their lovely of comfort and your precious time with them during their final days.

I'd try to source most of the equipment in private in advance so patient doesn't know, but it's important to have your house well stocked as deterioration can happen overnight and take you by surprise. Also think well in advance about rearranging your house. We didn't want to move furniture until last minute for psychological reasons - we thought my Dad would think we were assuming he was ready to die if we put a bed downstairs too soon. However, I wish we'd moved furniture in advance to make space for a bed, even if the bed wasn't there until later on.

 

Finally, before patient is discharged from hospital the most important drugs are the drugs for the syringe driver. As it is a given that eventually patient will not be able to swallow eventually. The syringe driver drugs are in boxes and they come with a YELLOW PRESCRIPTION CHART WHICH YOU SHOULD PRESENT TO A DOCTOR OR HOSPITAL PHARMACIST TO ENSURE IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY SIGNED OFF FOR (otherwise when you're panicking because patient is in pain and unable to swallow at home, district nurses will not be able to give the drug unless it was signed off for - this could leave a patient in pain for 30 mins or more waiting for an emergency on call doctor to arrive to sign a piece of paper). A high level nurse told me our yellow slip was adequately signed off for in the hospital but it wasn't.

 

It is well worth noting that my Dad was lucid until the end

 

This is such a long post but it's a reflection of just how much there is to coordinate near the end and how important it is to be proactive and anticipate it YOURSELF because Doctors nurses, and MacMillan nurses won't do it for you. They will not spell it out or commit to saying how quick it will be, as yes it's different for the individual. You do not want to be left vulnerable, MacMillan nurses can be really helpful but you need to chase this help, it is not readily available and largely depends upon factors such as how efficient your social worker is and if he/she has good foresight and can handle a busy schedule with an air of control. Beware that YOU will be assessing the situation and making important judgement calls yourself. Make it clear if you don't have home help and demand it, don't be proud.

he could hear but couldn't express himself - of this I'm 110% sure - so make sure you remind nurses, family, friends and any carers of this so they do not talk about death, the 'Liverpool Care Pathway' (which is a system of drugs and procedure regarding not resuscitating patients at deaths door etc) or anything undignified such as patient being unable to go to toilet properly in front of the patient. I'm sure anxiety over death and remaining dignified are 2 key factors during this stage. Anxiety over death/being separated from loved ones to me is worse than anticipation of pain.

 

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Pam

    Thanks for that, that means alot. Dad had a hospice from home nurse with him last night so I could rest at home without worrying.

    It is hard isnt it, the hardest thing I have ever had to face.

    I hope you are coping ok and you should feel very proud of what you did for your Dad xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    Hi all

    I can relate to many of the signs and symptoms you have described. My mum passed away on March 23rd of secondary liver cancer. The changes in 3 weeks were just unreal. She became bed ridden very quickly and had trouble just using a commode at the side of the bed  She was fed through a gastric tube this was due to the position of the primary cancer but it came to a point where she could not tolerate the feed and i was told to stop it , this was awful. All the other signs were also present, swelling of the legs and stomach, fluid breaking through the skin,dark coloured urine, itching, yellow skin, massive weight loss, confusion, pain in the back and side, then the cough.. and the smell of cancer.

    I think you know when the end is nearing and early post on liver failure is so accurate. My mum's symptoms pretty much follwed the ones described. 

    I so feel for you all because i understand what you  going through. This site is great because you no longer feel alone when you read and share each others stories.  

    I am a single parent and have no siblings, so i was alone through out. It was all so intense just watching somebody change so rapidly day by day//. Please make the most of community support and funding which is out there to provide care to enable peolpe to stay at home..This makes your experince easier than having to battle alone which in near on impossib;le.   

    Take care all thinking of you

    traceyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

     

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    Hi Scotlass

    So sorry about your dad.

     

    You were there for your dad and should be proud of what you did. Families can be strange and often excuses are made for diffcult behaviour. I get fed up at times of hearing how peolpe can not cope so they run away. Well I am sorry but some peolpe just have to cope dont they.

    You will look back on your experince with no regrets.  i wish i could have said more but i didnt and we don't always tell the ones   we love how much we love them.You were there and thats what you have to think when the dark thoughts set in. It will take time and we have to go through the dark times first and that includes reliving the ending, because we were all there. Nobody wants to see the ones they love in pain or becoming the shell of the person that they once knew. Despite how traumatic the latter few weeks become we stay and live with it. Your experince may have been difficult but at least you shared your dads journey  with him. He knew, he was aware and he too will have been proud.

    take care ...Traceyxxxxxxxx

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    I have just joined this forum, mum has been diagnosed with secondary liver cancer, unknown primary, last March, this thread has been brilliant if not sometimes upsetting, but all of you have helped so much without knowing it. In the last few days mum has changed drasticly, swollen legs weeping water, sleeping, no energy to move, a little distant at times (she was always very quick and chatty)  this may sound mad but I can smell the cancer I am sure.  The D nurse is coming round today, both DN and Mac nurses are superb so far, I am sure the end is nearing by reading this thread, so thank you all for being so honest in your time of pain and grief..... For me I get angry sometimes with a short fuse (not violent) just short tempered with people, I know I shouldn't but maybe its the way it is affecting me watching my mum get worse, I do live with her and gave up work to care for her in her last months. This disease is evil, but the people on the forum are so helpfull, new friends I will never meet. Thank you

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    Hi all

    There have been a lot of posts to this forum lately, and I'm sorry that so many of you are going through this with loved ones, but I am so glad you are finding support in this forum.

    My dad passed away last year from secondary liver cancer, spread from bowel cancer. I found the posts really helpful to know what was coming at the end and to be prepared, both practically (in terms of equipment and resources we'd need) and emotionally... not that anything ever really prepares you to lose a loved one, but I did find help and encouragement here.

    All I can say is that you are all so strong and doing brilliantly. It's such a hard journey to take and it's normal to feel scared or angry, you just have to feel what you feel and know that it'll pass in time. Nearly a year after my dad died I'm still incredibly sad, but things have got easier and I'm able to remember the good times rather than the difficult last days.

    Make sure to use all the resources you have available to you, nurses, friends, doctors... don't be afraid to ask for help if you need it! You will all be in my prayers, and if I can help at all by sharing any experiences, please don't hesitate to contact me.

    Best wishes to you all and your loved ones

    Rosie

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    Hi Sterg
    So sorry to hear about your mum.
    I have just read your post and can so relate to everything you have said. The symptoms that you mum is experiencing is the same as the ones that my mum had. In respect of the smell, no you are not mad. I could smell the cancer coming out of my mum. My cousin also said she could smell it, she knew because her dad and brother passed away with cancer.
    Of course, it is going to have an impact on you seeing you mum so unwell. I felt angry, I was angry with the system, her family, friends that turned their back on her, and people that moaned about pathetic trivial things.
    I took two months off work sick as soon as I was told her diagnosis was terminal. I Am now back at work after my mum passed away in March. To be honest going back to work has been beneficial, it took my mind off the last year. When I am not distracted all the crap comes back but at least now I have a break from it.
    The disease is evil, the sorry thing about it is that it tends to hit the people who least deserve it.
    Its an awful time right now for you and I think you are well aware of the stages. Thinking of you through this difficult time. 
    Take care   
    Traceyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    thanks Rosie and Tracey for your comments, This is a great forum, just writtiing about it and reading other people are going through the same, is sort of comforting in its self. Mum is not jaundiced yet but cannot move or stand now without help, she eats small amounts and can be ok sometimes, but sounds a little slured in her speech (she does not drink by the way)...she keeps saying she just wants to go now and be with my dad, (he passed 6 years ago of a heart attack very quickly),  I will try to keep an update as often as i can, in the hope that it may help someone suffering as we are, the thread has helped me so much in this horrible journey.

    Ste

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    I've been reading these posts but haven't felt able to contribute anything, I think it's because it's still too raw since losing my mum in law (she was one of my best friends) in August last year. Anyway it would have been her birthday today so I thought it was time I came back on just to say my thoughts are with you all and I'm hoping and praying for the best possible outcome. If anyone wants to ask anything of me please do, I was with mum constantly at the end so know how this awful disease affected her. Although I realise that not everyone has the same symptoms etc, these posts show it's all so similar.

    sending positive thoughts to you all

    Angie

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    Thinking of you Angie and blowing your mum in law a birthday kiss - and to all my other friends on here that I haven't met but have offered and given me so much comfort and support.

    It's my mum's 63rd birthday this Weds and she's on her final journey.  I'm with her every day and last night I stayed over in her bed with her so my dad could go in to another room and get a much needed break.  He went to bed at 4.00pm yesterday afternoon for a 'nap' and woke up at 8.00am this morning! It was a bittersweet experience for me; it was lovely to have my mum so close and be able to chat with her late into the night but I wanted to run a million miles away when the pain took hold and I watched her struggle.  For some reason her pain seems much more difficult to control during the night - I have no idea why.  Mum still either doesn't know (she's never asked), or wont face that she's dying.  She said yesterday that she was definitely going to be here for the Olympics next year, then in the next breath said she hopes she doesn't die on her birthday in 2 days time.  We have hospice and district nurses come in daily now but mum gets so anxious and agitated when she knows they're coming because of what they stand for...I don't know if anyone can really be 'ready' to die but my mum is definitely not ready to contemplate it.  She's deteriorating rapidly though.  A week is a long time when terminal illness has set in and when I think to how she was and what she could do last week compared to now, the difference is vast.  She is very jaundiced now, her skin and eyes are a deep yellow, her pain is constant, mainly in her back and side and her medication dosage has doubled in the last few days, confusion has set in (mildly) and even when she's awake, she has her eyes closed when she's talking.  Her appetite has all but disappeared although she's still very thirsty and drinking lots of water.  She has no swelling in her legs that others have mentioned but her face has become very mottled and she's developed thrush in her mouth which apparently is quite common - and her feet are always cold to touch.  I know I'm having a real ramble here but you will all know better than anyone how therapeutic getting it all out is...It really does help knowing that their are people out there to offer comfort because they're doing it or have been through it. Thank you everyone and if I can help anyone at all, please feel free to ramble back at me!

    Lorna xx

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    Thank you so much Lorna and I do hope your mum can get a little enjoyment on her birthday too.

    Your story sounds very similar to mine, in that I also moved in to my in laws house so that dad could get some sleep in another room - he was exhausted.  You will always treasure those moments / chats alone with her, I know I do.

    My mum in law also became quite confused not long before she left us, she started calling for her mum which was so heart wrenching to see and hear.

    Anyway, please don't think you're rambling on here. It really helps to get it all out.

    take care and I'll send a birthday kiss to your mum too.

    Angie

    x