Secondary Liver Cancer - Eventual Liver Failure and What to Expect

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Hi, my 63 year old father passed away this week as a result of secondary liver cancer, the primary was bowel cancer (which had also spread to his lungs, though the oncologists regarded the tumours on his lungs with far less concern than those on his liver). He was diagnosed with bowel cancer in 2007, after having almost no symptoms until the 11th hour (he was severely constipated for over a week all of a sudden, which led to severe vomiting, casualty, a hospital stay of two nights and 28cm bowel obstruction successfully removed and the results of the tumour take out were malignant - this was back in Autumn 2007).

 

Despite having two rounds of chemo over the two years, the first didn't work too well, the second did work in shrinking tumours but my father was taken of it on cycle 8 out of 12 as side effects of the drug threatened to kill him with a life threatening stroke or heart attack - he developed a blood clot on his lung. Signs of this clot were him not being able to lie down on his side one night, and a bit of pain there - though he never described that as agonising so be aware. The oncologist said that was an unusual reaction to the chemo drug.

 

He then was offered a little hope toward the end of this summer with the potential to go on a drug trial, with a renowned professor, though he was never accepted on this as it was deemed to dangerous in light of blood test results relating to liver function.

My father spent virtually all of his 2 years with cancer taking the dog on long walks, flying long haul to visit me in New York twice, getting on public transport, walking lots over there, going to the pub to meet his friends for a pint once a week, going on holidays to Scotland doing lots of walking with my mam, socialising with friends and family and retaining his friendly, cheerful, gentleman like demeanour. No tears EVER, no bad moods, no depressing talks or even mention of prognosis, perhaps a little more prone to tiredness than usual.

 

Fast forward to a month ago, when I came to visit him from NY - he was suddenly out of the blue a lot more tired and exhausted. He'd been taking steroids about 2 weeks prior to my visit and recently come off then. He was also on the blood thinner warfarin which needs careful monitoring. During my stay he was admitted to hospital, with suspect internal bleeding - they though the pain in his side was a result of misbalance of warfarin and perhaps the extreme tiredness as a result of suddenly being taken off steroids. He was immediately put back on steroids, and the warfarin adjusted - but no avail, as he continued to visit the his weekly warfarin clinic they just couldn't seem to get the balance of his dose right and his INR (which measures the clotting ability of his blood) was off the acceptable scale most of the time.

 

A misbalance of drugs masked the fact that liver failure was taking its effect. The whites of his eyes became slightly jaundiced about 3 weeks ago but just his eyes. As a week progressed his face was a shade of jaundice. He remained his normal self but VERY tired, and took tramadol the pain killer only occasionally (say every two days for a 'stitch like pain that wouldn't go away in his side').

 

I returned to New York, but last Saturday after knowing my Dad had been increasingly tired received a call from my mother saying Dad had been admitted to hospital. He'd had a bad nights sleep on the Friday night, was a little disorientated and on Saturday afternoon when the on call GP reached him at our home he failed a basic coordination test which involved aligning his hands together - the doctor said it was best to admit him into hospital for tests.

 

Dad was admitted to an 'acute care ward' as it was a weekend. I've since heard if it had been a weekday, they may have admitted him into a hospice for a night or two for assessment instead. He had a side room, and was the sickest on the ward by far - everyone else was in wards and were able to hold cups by themselves, talk in full sentences and achieve some sound sleep but not my Dad. By Saturday he was writhing on a bed grabbing the cot sides in pain, he was still talking but with one word answers or very short sentences. By Sunday I was on route to the UK on a plane, meanwhile my mother stayed up all night with my father as he was deteriorating so rapidly, he was down to one word answers and had to use a bedpan for the bathroom or a commode - he was bedridden. He was still taking his medication - steroids, pain killer, anti indigestion etc orally - they were all syrups and able to eat very soft food, like soggy wheatabix or ice cream which was one of the few things he seemed to enjoy at this stage.

 

I arrived on Monday morning at 8am, I took a deep breath and walked into his hospital room. He slowly, slowly turned his head to look at me, his eyes were deep yellow and his skin was a definite yellow, his face a little bloated and the dejected, fed up look in his expression was one of the most remarkable things. I'd never seen such suffering in a man right before my eyes in my life. I held it together for him, as I was conscious not to heighten any anxiety I'm sure he must have felt, told him I loved him and my Dad reach out to hug me and said 'good' in reply. He was totally lucid just so exhausted he was unable to express himself or his wishes properly.

 

As the day progressed my mother went home, leaving me with Dad as she had to urgently let the Macmillan delivery guys into our house to deliver a hospital bed, a commode, a table for a patient to eat off. It took until 5pm for the special ambulance to arrive and for his drugs to come from the pharmacy for him to be discharged. He was sent home with drugs suitable to administers via a syringe driver, for when he wouldn't be able swallow. The discharge process was a mess. He had a yellow prescription chart for the drugs for the driver which we had to take home, it had to be signed off by a Doctor - so a district nurse visiting our home could simply fit the syringe driver whenever my father reached the stage of not being able to swallow drugs orally. The nurses at the hospital checked over the form and said it was good to go - but we later discovered it wasn't, there was a second section which hadn't been signed off by a doctor.

 

After eating tiny spoonfuls of yoghurt on Monday evening and having deep sleep on Monday night, when my father 'woke up' (he wouldn't open his eyes and was in a semi coma, though he did scream out when carers handled his severely swollen legs to wash him) Most significantly he was unable to swallow drugs orally, and I had to waste a lot of time with phone calls back and forth to my GP's surgery to get district nurses out to him immediately (I was told to ring the nurses direct myself, the nurses told me for them to arrive as an emergency the GP had to dispatch them..) After time wasted with these calls the nurses arrived to tell me they could only count the drugs and could not administer them until the doctor arrived. Fortunately I made the judgement call to get the on call Doctor out as an emergency in addition to this, as I mentioned to her on the phone his breathing was becoming laboured and that we were NOT achieving the goal of making sure he was comfortable. It was around midday and he'd had NO medication just a droplet or two or oramorph the pain killer. The doctor arrived and completed the incomplete prescription chart. The driver was fitted, with the syringe in my fathers hand. I was told as it was subcutaneous it would take around 30 mins or so to kick in and the drugs given were a sedative (which I was most concerned with as I hated the thought of him panicking about dying and what the next step after death is), morphine for pain and anti sickness drug. The nurses and doctor left about 20 minutes later, and after a few moments my father opened his eyes for the first time that day and just stared as if unable to focus. My mother and I were holding his hands, kissing him, telling him he wasn't alone ever and how much we loved him. He then shut his eyes again and took his last few breaths, very peacefully..and that was the end.

 

This is a long story and still so fresh. His funeral hasn't even happened yet. I've learnt so much from it though and in short, I'd say that a most of the time liver failure will eventually become evident where a liver secondary is concerned.

First of all when jaundice comes, this is a sign of a build of a the waste product bilirubin in the blood, which the liver normally expels into the bowels - giving poo a brownish red colour. Poos become white, whilst eyes first then skin takes on a yellow tinge. Urine will become red looking, as if blood is in it - but the strong colour is the bilirubin. When these symptoms show, this means liver failure is already very WELL advanced. Dad was becoming exhausted complaining "I just want my energy back" - he didn't want to drive his beloved car or even get out of the car for a breath of fresh air when my mam drove to the beach to let the dog out. He couldn't manage a walk around the block, where as he could 2 weeks before he died. Severe tiredness is also a sign.

 

Then comes acute liver failure, at this stage Dad was becoming a little confused but remained totally lucid - the confusion was very subtle in his case - he'd ask the same question twice in a short space of time and went into the wrong bedroom after getting up for the toilet in the night (though my Mam had just swapped his bedroom to another room earlier that evening, so again subtle signs of confusion).

Eventually my Dad simply became too weak to talk, walk, sleep properly, eat or drink. He went from walking talking eating and drinking to being bedridden writhing in pain, unable to talk in a matter of 4 days. I also think he may have hung on longer suppressing his pain and demise waiting for me to arrive from the USA to see him. He was so brave in the face of it all and considerate to the end, looking pleased saying 'good' when I told him my mam and me were going to have a lie down after 2 days of no sleep the night before he died.

 

His legs were very swollen and so painful to touch he cried out when he was moved. He writhed around a lot unable to get comfortable and clung onto much needed cot sides of the hospital bed. The bed delivered to our home didn't have cot sides so we had to line up two arm chairs against it to stop him from falling out and my mam broke down in tears holding his swollen legs. I forgot to mention that only my mam and I were with him at home during discharge, I am in the third trimester of pregnancy and we were left alone with him at home in a state of discomfort until district nurses arrived at 8pm. Fortunately my uncle who's a GP arrived earlier and helped reposition him - you need 2 able bodied people to move and reposition a 12 stone sick man - you don't realise how much they writhe around into uncomfortable and potentially dangerous positions.

 

A consultant told my mam my Dad was dying on Saturday night but why a Macmillan nurse was not with us to over see his discharge I don't know. Our Macmillan nurse was lovely, but she came after my father passed away - about 30 minutes later. The Monday night before my father's death, he was watched by Macmillan carers NOT qualified nurses. They were lovely women - but it was so close to the end someone should have been on hand to inject him with a pain killer if needs be.

There was a big boo boo with his yellow prescription chart for the drugs administered by the syringe driver - no one took ownership over my Dad's case on the acute care ward at the hospital, and though some staff were exceptional - others were a little clueless tending to talking eating drinking patients in a communal ward, before my dying father in a side room alone with his pregnant daughter. He couldn't talk or eat properly, or drink without a baby's cup being held up to him. Some nurses just didn't use common sense or experience to set their priorities straight.

 

So my advice in short to anyone caring for a patient with a liver secondary which is terminal is:

 

Don't focus on prognosis -there are so many good times my Dad and I had while he had cancer, it didn't stop him from being him and enjoying life until right up until the end really ( I mean 3 weeks before his death).

 

Look out for any signs of liver failure - I mentioned them earlier such as the jaundice etc. When this comes you know the end isn't in the distant future - I'm talking weeks. At this stage be brave and get Macmillan and your assigned nurse as heavily involved as possible.

 

Look out for signs of acute liver failure - severe tiredness, the onset of which seems to happen quickly, very subtle signs of slight disorientation or confusion. It may just be being slower in response to questions or sounding unenthusiastic and a lot quieter than usual on the telephone etc. At this stage go through a checklist of equipment in your mind - you will want your loved one to be comfortable at home at the end and you will need things like:

a baby beaker to drink

straws

oral syringe

A large plastic washing up bowel to fill up with hot water to wash patient in bedside.

New Sponges

At least 3 new sheets for a single bed, patient is most comfortable with thin sheets.

2-3 fitted sheets for a single bed.

Clean towels.

Baby Wipes.

Antiseptic Wipes

Dentyl Alcohol free double layer mouthwash (helps with oral thrush common at this stage) - don't bother with this during the very later stages, you don't want the patient to swallow it.

Pineapple//Orange Juice

Ice-Cream

Favourite Foods

Bottled water Still

Little sponges on sticks to dip in water or pineapple juice to freshen and clean the mouth - district nurses

a bed pan - district nurses provide

catheter tubes - district nurses

Incontinence pads - district nurses

Ask Macmillan social worker about ordering a hospital bed WITH COT SIDES (essential), a commode and table to eat off that hangs over the bed, in advance.

Think about close family members that the patient would take comfort in having bedside for this harrowing experience. Deterioration will last not much longer than a week if acute liver failure sets in - although all patients are different, it's a given that liver failure can be as quick as 48 hours in some cases.

As signs of liver failure progress, to pain and restlessness you will need 2 able bodied adults to be present at all times to reposition and help lift the patient.

If a patient is in hospital or a hospice - you will need 2 able bodied adults to help settle the patient into their home on the day of discharge. If you don't have family or friends suitable for this very personal close experience, contact Macmillan and say you would like a nurse plus at least one carer present. Be pushy and adamant about this - your job is to hold the patients hand and reassure them, otherwise you'll be running round frantically making calls, searching for equipment and struggling to move the patient compromising their lovely of comfort and your precious time with them during their final days.

I'd try to source most of the equipment in private in advance so patient doesn't know, but it's important to have your house well stocked as deterioration can happen overnight and take you by surprise. Also think well in advance about rearranging your house. We didn't want to move furniture until last minute for psychological reasons - we thought my Dad would think we were assuming he was ready to die if we put a bed downstairs too soon. However, I wish we'd moved furniture in advance to make space for a bed, even if the bed wasn't there until later on.

 

Finally, before patient is discharged from hospital the most important drugs are the drugs for the syringe driver. As it is a given that eventually patient will not be able to swallow eventually. The syringe driver drugs are in boxes and they come with a YELLOW PRESCRIPTION CHART WHICH YOU SHOULD PRESENT TO A DOCTOR OR HOSPITAL PHARMACIST TO ENSURE IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY SIGNED OFF FOR (otherwise when you're panicking because patient is in pain and unable to swallow at home, district nurses will not be able to give the drug unless it was signed off for - this could leave a patient in pain for 30 mins or more waiting for an emergency on call doctor to arrive to sign a piece of paper). A high level nurse told me our yellow slip was adequately signed off for in the hospital but it wasn't.

 

It is well worth noting that my Dad was lucid until the end

 

This is such a long post but it's a reflection of just how much there is to coordinate near the end and how important it is to be proactive and anticipate it YOURSELF because Doctors nurses, and MacMillan nurses won't do it for you. They will not spell it out or commit to saying how quick it will be, as yes it's different for the individual. You do not want to be left vulnerable, MacMillan nurses can be really helpful but you need to chase this help, it is not readily available and largely depends upon factors such as how efficient your social worker is and if he/she has good foresight and can handle a busy schedule with an air of control. Beware that YOU will be assessing the situation and making important judgement calls yourself. Make it clear if you don't have home help and demand it, don't be proud.

he could hear but couldn't express himself - of this I'm 110% sure - so make sure you remind nurses, family, friends and any carers of this so they do not talk about death, the 'Liverpool Care Pathway' (which is a system of drugs and procedure regarding not resuscitating patients at deaths door etc) or anything undignified such as patient being unable to go to toilet properly in front of the patient. I'm sure anxiety over death and remaining dignified are 2 key factors during this stage. Anxiety over death/being separated from loved ones to me is worse than anticipation of pain.

 

  • FormerMember
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    Steph,

    I am so sorry for your loss. I am sending this to you Steph because I hope that Jess has long since stopped reading this thread. She must already know how much support she has given to countless carers facing the last stages of life with a loved one.

    My own father died two years ago but this thread gave me the support and knowledge to see the tell tale signs that the end is near and I was able to be with him for the last five weeks of his life.

    There are some things that are similar about these experiences but it is clear that everyone’s experience is different. It has taken me a long time to write my own post because my mother had a major stroke after my father’s death and her welfare became my main priority.

    I just want to add one thing which might not be what everyone wants to hear but which I need to say. I wish my father had not gone through chemotherapy for the secondary liver cancer. I think it would have given him a little longer with a quality of life that was denied him once he started on the chemo process. Towards the end he came off it anyway but by that time he was already too poorly to do any of the things he enjoyed.

    Two years earlier, when he had his bowel cancer removed, was when he should have had chemo. It was never discussed or offered when he needed it then. The surgeons believed they had removed everything. When they later found it in his liver they talked about another two, three, possibly even five years if he had the treatment. In the event he had just another eight months, almost all of them with a pic in his arm and unable to garden, his greatest love. The first 12 sessions of chemo were fine and the family enjoyed a final christmas together. By February the toxic cocktail of drugs had broken him physically and mentally and we never got him back. 

    It is a very hard decision not to have treatment. My father had too much hope to ever consider it. It is my own feeling, not his, that those 8 months would have been better lived to the full instead of being shackled to the routine of the cancer ward.

    Death, when it came for dad, was slow. His heart was stronger than his will and he survived days longer than he or any of us could cope with. If the nurses had been able to offer him a drink to end his life he would have taken it in an instant.

    Chemotherapy does work for some people and extends their life. It just didn’t for my dad. I wanted to share that because there might be others out there thinking about stopping chemo and wondering if it is the right thing to do. There is no right or wrong. I can only share my own experience.

    Anyone who reads this thread is looking for ways to support and care for their loved ones. You are all heroes. Love to you all – and I am so sorry.

    Avril

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Avril

    I read Jess's story and it has been very informative. My older sister who turned 50 in February, was diagnosed with bowel cancer 4.5 years ago.  She has had 43 sessions of chemo in those years.  She had part of her bowel removed but unfortunately 4 months after that operation she had secondary cancer in her liver.  She then had 5/8 of her liver removed to remove one of the terrible tumours.  Unfortunately, the other tumor is attached to the main portal vein going into the liver and is too risky to operate.  She finished her 43rd session of chemo and went on a deserved holiday.  During that vacation her stomach started to swell tremendously, adding 12 inches to her waist measurement.  The blood tests revealed that she had high levels of bilirubins in her blood.  All my family live in the UK and I live in New Zealand.  I am trying to decide when to fly.  A crystal ball would be ideal right now, but unfortunately that's not an option.  I am looking at flying over 3-4 weeks time.  My younger sister told me yesterday that my older sister's eyes are turning yellow.  So this is indicating that the liver is starting to fail.  Can anyone give me a rough timeframe of what to expect.  Should i be going like now????  I know this is an unreasonable question to ask, but she has said she wants to have one more christmas and thats why we can fly over in the beginning of december and have xmas with her.  My son has high school exams that finish next week.  I just don't know what to do........

    Looking at Jess's story her father was 4 weeks from the jaundice stage to final resting.  She is an extremely determined lady and has shocked all the doctors with how long she has survived and how much chemo her body has gone through.  She has also been diagnosed with cancer in the lining of her stomach and in her lymph nodes in the groin area.


    Would appreciate any feedback on what to expect in the next 4-6 weeks

    Thank you

    Janine

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    Hey Janine.

    There's no easy way to say this, but I think you need to go soon. 


    It's hard to give exact time frames, but it can go downhill quite quickly. I can't remember how long mum had from when her eyes first went yellow, but after her final docs appointment (she'd had yellow eyes for a few weeks prior I think), he told us we had 2 weeks max. We got 5 days. 


    But like I said, everyone is different.


    This is really hard for me to type, but if I can help with my story, I will.


    Kind regards,

    Steph


  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi steph, thank you so much for replying, I really appreciate your feedback. I need to make my decision soon. it will be a sad trip.

    Thank you

    Kindest regards

    Janine

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi Janine

    It's hard to say this but I hope you can travel soon. My dad first had yellow in his eyes on New Years day, and passed away on 23rd January, so we had about 3 weeks. He was very sleepy near the end though. So if you are hoping for quality time / lots of awake time then I would travel over sooner rather later. 

    But everyone's different so there is no way of knowing for sure.


    Jo

    Xxx

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    Thank you all for sharing your experiences.  I'm replying to an older thread, but my story is similar. 

    I am supporting my uncle, who has Stage 4 pancreatic cancer that has spread to the liver.  We thought we caught the pancreatic cancer early - it was a few mm and had not spread, or so we thought.  In spring 2017 we started with chemo then tried the Whipple procedure to resect the pancreas.  During surgery they found it had spread to the liver, just two small lesions.  Unfortunately we had to wait for recovery before going back to chemo. This gave the cancer time to spread - after the first month, we tried the new immunology drug Keytruda that some hailed as a cure. It didn't work, and we had to go back to chemo.  It is now fall of 2017, and the liver lesions had spread.  He went in for jaundice and swelling.  We are now told there is no hope for a cure, that chemo would not do anything.  It is such a short amount of time, this cancer is so aggressive.  


    My uncle is a surgeon, he knew what was happening but shielded the family from some of the harsher truths.  We are trying to support him as best as we can, but it is hard to face him without tears, so hard.  And infinitely worse for him of course.  The legs are swelling, he has yellowing of the skin.  Difficult to swallow.  He loses focus sometimes, and he has severe back and shoulder pain - all the symptoms that I have read are present.  We are trying to spend as much quality time with him, massaging his back and shoulders, holding his hands.  


    I am praying that the decline is gentle.  My thoughts and prayers are with you all and your families.  


    Kind regards,

    Larry

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    Thank you to each and every person that has contributed to this thread. I joined the community only a few days ago. My sister was diagnosed with bowel cancer 10 months ago with mets on liver and lungs. 

    Long story short she was hospitalised 2 days ago as her liver function was "off the scale". She is now very jaundiced. She's still in good spirits, doesn't show any signs of swelling but does have itchiness in her arms and has been given piriton. She's been 3 days waiting on a ct scan of her liver to see if they can put a stent in, and of course we cling to the hope that this will work. This they've promised will be done tomorrow morning.  I've spent tonight reading the whole thread from Jess's initial post and feel so much more informed.


    I think I'm realising this could be the beginning of the end. She's 46. I'm heartbroken.

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Bless you and your family, Larry. So sorry to hear your story. Thinking of you. xxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    And so sorry to hear your story too Mrsmacv. 46. Wow. My dad was 58 when he died and that age was tough to bear. Take care of yourself and your family, so the little things that are important, get time with your loved ones. These are the things you will never regret. Love, hugs, and thoughts to you and Larry and everyone else having to deal with this terrible disease. 

  • This has been a very useful thread and I'm very grateful to you all.     My husband has primary bowel with secondaries to his liver.    His eyes are yellowing and there is a tinge of yellow to his face.    

    I will take on board all the advice given here.     ❤️