What are the options once your tumour has stopped growing?

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Dear All

my wife Val was diagnosed with Metatistic RCC in January 22. She had various scans and started Ipi/Nivo in August. After her scan in November, her oncon phoned to say "great news! your tumour has stopped growing". Now on Nivo only, her last CT scan was on Saturday 4th March and it will take the Multi Discipline Team a couple of weeks to decide on her progress or otherwise. Naturally, we're hoping for a sign that her tumour is reducing, but thinking long term, what  are the chances that her team would consider removing the affected tumour if the 'spread' has been stopped? Her Oncon has only seen her twice and consultations are done over the phone (not as frequently as we would like), so we have to write down our questions in  readiness for his call, it's only afterwards that we think of something we should have asked. This will be a question we will put, but it would be valuable to hear from fellow sufferers. 

This link has provided us with a lot of answers and advice, thank you to everyone.

Regards, Ron and Val

  • They won't remove the tumour or kidney once spread to other organs.  The options are restricted to what has been been through trials etc and once you start down one pathway some treatment options become closed.  Each treatment has entry criteria according to it's licence.  That doesn't mean to say surgery won't be considered at a later date, but further spread / growth would probably have to occur.  I have attended a webinar Q&A led by Tom Powles from Barts and he was explaining this point via the Kidney Cancer UK website.   But don't take my word for it - ask your oncologist. 

    Yes, definitely write down a list of Qs in advance and don't let them end the call / meeting until you have had the opportunity to raise them.  

  • Hiya - just to add, likely treatment options is to continue with the immuno for 2 years even with no further growth.  If it's not working then an option might be to try a different drug.   Then after 2 years if the cancer was under control then options would be to (a) stop treatment and go on to watch and wait (b) continue with the ipi/nivo.  Additionally to start reducing the CT scan frequency.   I've just gone to scans every 4 months.  After 2 years of treatment 6 monthly scans could be on the table, after 5 years annual scans.  Wow!  Nothing is certain huh.  

  • Thanks Mmum

    this is so helpful. I mean, we really like the "after 5 years" bit ;-) Val's oncologist told her that once they noticed a positive response to the ipi/nivo treatment, "It works".  So, not curable, but treatable - that seems to be what's in store. I will update everyone on the results of Val's CT scan - so happy to see you record a 20% reduction in the size of your own tumour.

    All best wishes, Ron and Val.