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Hi, my name is Victoria and I have no-one to talk to about this. I've finally registered to be able to come on here because it's gotten to the point where my anxiety is spiraling out of control. I've been reading for many years. My sister had NHL in 2018 and is doing well, in fact much better than me. This forum helped me (and her) with information - such a knowledgeable and caring bunch truly. OK so I suffer with health anxiety. I lost my Mum to complications after bowel cancer surgery when I was 20 and since then have suffered with this sometimes debilitating affliction.

Without wanting to worry my sister and without a Mum to talk to, I'm so so scared and feel alone. I'm 48 years old and going through peri-menopause. Health has always been good, contrary to what my mind tells me. I have hot flashes (not sweating) at various times throughout the day or when I panic (Is that classed as a night sweat during the day?)

For the last two weeks, I've had itching all over my body at random spots. Tips of ears, knee, toe, elbow, arm...it's like I'm following one random itch around my body. Less so when I'm not thinking about it and more so when I spend 3 hours at 3am watching TT videos after searching 'lymphoma itch'. Needless to say I am a wreck. I've taken a Zyrtec every day until my drs appt at 12pm tomorrow. It's been a long eleven days waiting for this appointment. LONG. Trying to concentrate on work and always creeping back to my phone, desperate for one website that will say 'lymphoma itch is nothing like that'. Instead I find the itch can be in one or two spots, or all over. Ok great!

I know you are all going through your own challenges but please can anyone shed any light on the 'itch'. Mine is like a bug bite, or when you have dust on you. One itch and it's gone, sometimes to another spot. No blood, no lumps, no rash and no other symptoms.

I did take half a serepax today and the itching has slowed or not as noticeable. Placebo? perhaps.


Please any advice would be greatly received... I don't want to worry my sister and I could do with a friend or two.

Thank you, ever so much.

  • Hi Victoria  and a warm welcome to this corner of the Community although I am sorry to see you joining us.

    I am Mike and I help out around our various Lymphoma groups. I was diagnosed way back in 1999 at 43 with a rare, incurable but treatable type of NHL eventually reaching Stage 4a in late 2013 so I do appreciate the challenges of this journey rather well.

    I have been helping out on the Macmillan Community for coming up to 7 years and I also volunteer with Lymphoma Action

    Lymphoma Action is the only UK Lymphoma Specific Charity who have lots of good reliable information about all things Lymphoma…… from ‘what is Lymphoma’ symptoms, types of Lymphoma, treatments m, post Lymphoma life and they also have many support platforms.

    Yes Itching can indeed be one of the many Lymphoma Symptoms but having talked with so many people over the years the itching can be ever so different but most say it’s an all over itch.

    I have a rare skin NHL and my Lymphoma presented as a developing itch but very quickly developed to be like bad Psoriasis.

    But our skin is very reactive. There are many types of skin conditions that can make the skin itchy….. and yes over my years there have been a lot of people pass through the community who like yourself were dealing with this problem….. I am pleased to say that most folks did not have Lymphoma but had another type of skin or autoimmune problem.

    In fact my wife had an itch rather like what you are describing a number of years back, she went to see a Dermatologist and was given some direction and meds and it cleared up after a year…… the Dermatologist also said that working in a stressful environment, or being an anxious person can develop skin issues due to the stress.

    So you go and talk with your Doctor and get their take on this….. I will say that relentless searching on the internet will most likely confuse you and make you more anxious….. stick to the Lymphoma Action site as all the information is produced with the help of top Consultants from across the UK.

    They also have a Lymphoma helpline on 0808 808 5555 where you can talk with someone and get support - open every week day from 10 till 3.

    This group is always here to help you out ((hugs))

    Mike (Thehighlander)

    It always seems impossible until its done - Nelson Mandela

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  • Hi Mike, It's a pleasure to e-meet you! I've often seen your replies in this forum and have always admired your gentle and yet informative approach. Thank you for all of that information and yes, you are completely correct. I do have to stop reading so much and trying to Dr Google myself. My search history is woeful at the moment. I've had the temptation to do some more searching earlier but stopped.

    Thank you for taking the time to reply and to share your story/ongoing journey. I'm very grateful for your genuine care and support.

    Will keep you updated tomorrow. I'm going to ask for a chest xray and bloods as a starting point but to be honest, it sounds like its not something that could be diagnosed quickly. One site said the itch can precede diagnosis by five years!!

    Looking forward to chatting again. Thank you (HUGS)

  • Hello Victoria- Pete here. And from my limited profile you will see I've got (or not, may have been cured but doubt it) Hodgkin's lymphoma and been treated for nearly 4 and 1/2 years. Mind you it took 18 months to diagnose. What have I learnt which I will share with you.

    The only websites of any use are either the NHS ones or UK specialist ones like Lymphoma Action. Some sites would advocate putting a stick of rhubarb in painful places to cure anything. Which brings me onto the Waiting Game. This can't be helped. Even tests can take days/weeks to get answers. I've grown old (79 in April and lovely and modest with it) waiting to have tests/see consultants. But after some treatments you have to wait for your body to settle down - 6 weeks sometimes- before tests can be carried out. So sorry Victoria, some things can't be rushed much as we would like them to.

    The medics are on your side. I have been treated for 2 years in Oxfordshire and since October 2019, in Kent. And everybody wants to see you suceed. There are a group called Clinical Nurse Specialists (often under the MacMillan Cancer Support umbrella) attached to the Haemotology-oncology department. Use them. They are an interface between you and the consultant/department. Tons of experience/knowledge - remember to you, you are one of one; to them, you are one of scores they have seen over the years. Even before you have definitive answers, pick up the phone and speak to them. Sorry, I can't give you a contact number for your hospital but the haemotology.oncology department can. Lovely people - valuable ally in the days/months/years(?) to come.

    Obviously I don't know your family/friends circumstances but if you/they are anything like me, the C-word was frightening. We've been brought up with it being so. Hushed tones "he's got cancer". My late lovely wife was diagnosed with a brain-tumour in 1992 - she overcame operations and sight loss but still worked (albeit latterly part-time) until she retired aged 65. "Sod the world" was her attitude, nothing would get in her way even though she was 4 foot, 11 and 3/4 inches tall. What I learned from her was panic when you had to and not before and engage/share with people you trust. Therefore that doesn't mean everybody.

    Which brings me (finally- "hooray" you cry) to HUGS and LAUGHS. Get 'em and enjoy them. I do- raises the spirits and even with cancer (there, I've said it) we are still human beings. And if during treatment your hair falls out - think of the money you save at the hairdressers.

    Best of luck on your journey- you ain't alone.

    Pete (complete with long distance hug(s) for you)

  • Oh Pete this was so lovely to read, made me cry. A heartfelt thank you to you. Thank you for taking the time to share your story and i'm so sorry your wife has passed but boy did she sound like a fire cracker and someone to have in your corner.

    I do hope you are doing well - you have an incredible spirit. You make me miss my beautiful grandad who at the grand age of 92 still played golf and be back in time for his Sunday roast with extra yorkshire puds. I would say 'how are you, grandad?' and his reply was always 'every day above the ground is a good day'. Oh how I miss him

    Thank you for your kindness and your valuable information. Off to the drs today to start this journey. 

    Extra hugs back to you xx

  • Some sites would advocate putting a stick of rhubarb in painful places to cure anything

    And this made me laugh so much!

  • Just another update. Had a CT scan, bloods and chest xray yesterday. Should have the results on Monday x

  • Steps in the right direction Thumbsup

    Mike (Thehighlander)

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  • Thanks, Mike. Itching has been a lot today...moving from one little bug bite to the other. You know the feeling after a hair cut and those little hairs drop into your clothes... or a tiny little bite from a bug... drives me crazy!! The dr gave me a stronger form of zyrtec and that seems to have eased it. 

    I always think of questions I should have asked while I was with the GP but my mind goes quite blank as I bombard him with word vomit.

    I had bloods done in December ( i get them every six months) and he said yesterday that on the last ones my liver, kidneys and thyroid are all good. Hypothetically, if bloods are good, if CT scan and xray are clear, plus no visible or pokable lymph nodes have reared their heads, what test should I ask for next to eliminate Lymphoma? I know Pete and yourself talked about the long journey of diagnosis.

    Sending warm hugs and a hot cup of tea,

    Victoria

  • Hi Victoria, in all my 24 years my bloods have never showed anything that was specifically Lymphoma related…… but they go all over the place once I started treatnent.

    I only ever had CT scans…… some folks have PET scans….. some even have a MRI but on the whole a CT would show areas of concern that needs further investigation.

    It took over 14 years for some llymph nodes to grow and keep growing in my neck…… but I did have the normal lymph nodes rise and fall as the lymphatic system did it's normal thing when fighting infection's.

    The main tool is a biopsy but if there is nothing to actually biopsy then I would guess that your GP may ask you to monitor your symptoms and get back to them uf there are any changes.

    A referral to a Heamatologist would be ideal but my great GP once explained that there are minimum criteria that needs to be reached for them to refer on…… but this does not remove the reality that Lumphoma could be there but not directed at this point in time.

    Diagnosis of Lymphoma

    Mike (Thehighlander)

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