Suicidal thoughts post treatment

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My husband completed 6 weeks of chemoradiation in August last year for cancer of the Larynx. The treatment was successful.

This morning he showed me a clip on the TV of Noel Edmonds talking about suicide and he started crying. I asked if he wanted to kill himself and he said yes. He said his body is 'f**ked and he feels like his life is over. I knew he was feeling low but not this bad. He has gone back to work full time and we have had a few weekends away but I know he has found it hard physically.

I reacted badly because I felt so hurt that he wants to leave me. I just started crying and can't stop. He says it doesn't help him when I get so emotional. 

I wanted to ring the mental health crisis line but he won't let me. 

I feel so scared, I don't know what to do. 

He has a medication review on Friday. He said I can ask to make this a double appointment so he can tell the doctor about his depression. I just worry that it will be too late.

Sorry for the ramble. I don't know who else to talk to as I don't want to break his confidence. 

  • Hi JaneO

    I am glad that you have reached out for some support.

    I can understand that although you realised your husband was feeling low after his cancer treatment, today must have come as a shock. It is understandable that you feel very tearful and emotional. 

    I know that you do not want to break any confidences but I do think you need to talk to someone today. 

    Is there a possibility that the Friday appointment could be bought forward perhaps. Could you call the GP and explain there is a need for an urgent appointment. 

    These may also help

    NHS111- 24 hours a day

    116 123 Samaritans

    Shout 85258- text for Support

    Mental health crisis services - Mind

    Do you feel able to call the Support Line and talk things through with someone who will understand?

    Jane

           

    Macmillan Support Line - 0808 808 00 00, 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

  • Hi Jane as the other Jane suggested see if you can get an urgent referral today. Head and neck cancer patients are often given anti depressants it’s not unusual. Our treatments is brutal and it affects many people in different ways. I class myself as very very lucky I’m a glass half full person and I managed to maintain that. Many many others aren’t there’s no shame in it often our other half take the brunt  if our mood swings or maybe in your husbands case he’s back at work and maybe he is struggling.  Outside we look normal but the turmoil can be inwards treatments hard and side effects can be debilitating. Please try  to contact  someone today. Using the numbers Jane 2511 gave. 
    hugs 

    Hazel xx

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  • Thank you. I just phoned the DRs and was told that the medication review is with the surgery's pharmacist not a doctor. I was told to ring back at 8.30am for an appointment tomorrow. I wanted to say how urgent it was but I just started crying so hung up. 

    He's on nights so he's asleep at the moment. I know I can't make any appointments without him agreeing anyway as he just won't go. 

    I will call one of the numbers you have suggested once I've collected myself enough to speak.

    I appreciate your support and advice.

  • Hi Jane

    I know it is hard to speak when you are upset- but when you have collected yourself a bit- try the Macmillan Line- they are really supportive on there. 

    Emotional, financial and physical help for people with cancer | Macmillan Cancer Support

    I know myself that once treatment is done and life begins to get back to pre cancer routines- it can be when the processing starts. I myself had a different cancer but had surgery, chemo and radiotherapy and I know how brutal the journey can feel at times. Although it is really scary- he has reached out to you and told you how low he feels and this is a first step. You both need support through this and we are here for you. 

    Please do give the Support Line a call. They can then talk it through with you and suggest the best help for you both

    Jane

           

    Macmillan Support Line - 0808 808 00 00, 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

  • The treatment is very hard on us physically and mentally, recovering is slow and depression can set in, flashbacks/PTSD are common among patients, counselling is available from GPs, get in touch with your GP straight away, help should only be a phone call away.

    Micky

  • Hi Jane. So sorry to hear about your husband's struggles with depression and the extreme concern it is causing you. I went through a similar time when I felt so low that I didn't know how I could go on. I ended up crying during my appointment with my consultant and he was such a great support and pointed me in the right direction to get some help. I found talking about my issues really helped me. Counseling can make such a difference along with anti depressants. Go along with your husband to his appointment and raise your concerns even if he doesn't want you to.

    There is light at the end of the tunnel with some help. I am doing really well now and am back to fully enjoying my life. It takes time to adjust to the challenges after head and neck cancer treatment but you do get there in the end as I can confirm.  Life can be good again. Look after yourself too as you are an important support person for your husband. 

    Sending you positive thoughts

    Lyn

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  • Thank you for sharing your experiences, Lyn. It does help to know things can and will get better xx

  • Hi Jane.  We've spoken before over on the Larynx forum and I'm so sorry you're both going through troubling times.

    You may remember that my fella had a TL and although he kept reassuring me he was ok, I was never convinced.  I'd secured him a referral for counselling, with his permission, but I realised it would take time to move up the list.  During the wait, his tearful episodes became more frequent and I finally got it out of him it was because he couldn't speak.  I'd expected just that and told him no more bottling up, to write down his thoughts and feelings and we'd talk them through.  It helped him a lot and by the time we saw the clinical psychologist, he was receptive towards her advice.  She was reassured enough to discharge him, but the help's always there if needed.

    He's now in a much better place; back to acting daft and making me laugh - result x two!  We've got a plan in place to hopefully resolve his speech issue and that's helped him too.

    No-one should suffer in silence as the help should be there when you need it.  And if it isn't, don't be afraid of pushing as it often pays dividends.

    Take care and hugs xxx

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    Everybody else has given you excellent avenues to pursue 

    I was married to an alcoholic. I know it’s not the same but in a way there is a  similarity in that he wouldn’t do anything get the ball rolling to help himself. His depression was awful to watch, fuelled ever deeper by alcohol. 
    Have a look at this charity offering counselling. Maybe you could persuade him to at least look at the website. 
    Considering what we go through I’m surprised more of us don’t succumb to PTSD but there is a way out. It’s nit easy and it’s by no means a sign of defeat to seek help. 
    My thoughts are with you. I now how hard it is. 

    Have a look here 

    https://cancersupportuk.org/

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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