Fatigue

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Hello. My daughter sent me the link for here saying it might help me to be with others with neck cancer. I was diagnosed in September with a 1 inch squamous cell carcinoma on my epiglottis. I also have 3 nodes involved. I am 12 days from finishing 35 Radiotherapy treatments with 6 Chemotherapy treatments. I completely understand the people who struggled with Chemo, I did too. So sick. What I would like to ask is......Yesterday I had a 'good' day. I had seen all the family over Christmas which was great as as soon as I finished my treatment I became very poorly and they admitted me to hospital I had a blood transfusion (Hb was 6.8) and my Neutrophils were at rock bottom. I came out just in time for Christmas and couldn't be with anyone with a cold etc. Had to keep a mask on but that was fine! But today I got up and felt like I had been hit by a truck. My legs just wouldn't hold me up for long and I am so breathless. I tried to walk the dog but so weak and tired that I had to turn back and get into bed. Is this what other people experienced? Does the tiredness come and go like this? I managed to get through my treatment really well and I am just a bit worried that I am slipping back into being ill again. No temperature or anything like that just bone crushingly exhausted? Is this normal 12 days post finishing/? Thank you so much for reading and any advice.

  • Hi Nellm 

    Sorry to hear about your treatment but what your experiencing is precisely what I did too 4 years ago... initially I fought it but my consultant told me if I felt totally exhausted I should just rest...it lasted 2 or 3 months but eventually passed and I only rarely get it now 4 years later. your body is good at telling you when you need to lie down.

    Good luck and you've got this

    Chas 

  • Hi Nellm

    Congratulations on finishing your treatment as it is a rough ride.

    Unfortunately the fatigue is part of the whole thing and completely ‘normal’.  Most days I could only get up late morning and then only manage a few things before I was worn out again. I did walk but found I could only go really short distances for quite a while. It does get better and then all of a sudden you are off and running again. I used to hold onto my husband’s arm for a while and he would literally drag me around the shopping centre with lots of rests along the way.

    Be kind to yourself as you just have to take it quietly for a while. Thank goodness it doesn’t last.

    Lyn

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  • Hello Nell and welcome. Well done on getting through this. The journey to recovery begins. My oncologist told me it would be a year before I felt my old self and he was right.

    No temperature or anything like that just bone crushingly exhausted? Is this normal 12 days post finishing/

    It is I'm afraid. It's called Radiation Fatigue and it's really common. Radiotherapy has a residual effect for two to three weeks after treatment end anyway so you are still in that period.I slept for most of the two weeks after I finished. After that  I was like a slow old lady going up to our field to walk the dog with my husband. For six months after there were times when out of the blue I would get poleaxed by the same feelings you had. It's caused by radiation affecting the base of your brain. It does get better and the best thing to do is to listen to your body and rest. Recovery is a marathon with some days being better than others. 

    You'll get there

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Oh my goodness I am so glad I got onto this site! Thank you so much for all taking the time to reply. You have all been through it and have given me advice that has really calmed me down. My daughter has been saying that I am trying to do too much but now that I have read your experiences, I am going to just sit down and rest when I feel exhausted?! 

    One other thing. When does this revolting taste of a Himalayan Salt Block go from inside your mouth? 

    Thank you so much again. It's brilliant to talk to people who really understand what you're feeling.

  • Oh my goodness I am so glad I got onto this site! Thank you so much for all taking the time to reply. You have all been through it and have given me advice that has really calmed me down. My daughter has been saying that I am trying to do too much but now that I have read your experiences, I am going to just sit down and rest when I feel exhausted?! 

    One other thing. When does this revolting taste of a Himalayan Salt Block go from inside your mouth? 

    Thank you so much again. It's brilliant to talk to people who really understand what you're feeling

  • Hi Dani, Do I reply to each person separately or just at the bottom to everyone? Thank you so much for your help

  • You can reply to everybody at once. We know what you mean. If there anything particular you want to refer to you can reply to that post but a general reply is fine. Re salty taste. Yes yuk. 6 months for me but others are earlier or later. Everybody is different but we all get there and so will you. 
    Don’t be afraid to ask anything. This is all new to you and it’s easy to get frightened for nothing. All you often need is a reassuring word from somebody who’s been there. 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I BLOGGED MY TREATMENT 

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Have a read of this. It’s exceptionally well written and resonates with all of us. Print some copies out and distribute them to friends and family 

    www.workingwithcancer.co.uk/.../After-the-treatment-finishes-then-what.pdf

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I BLOGGED MY TREATMENT 

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Hi Nell welcome from me what the others have said about radiation fatigue hits you even in a marathon and you take the wall you can you can do is listen to your body I became the master of the 20 minute power nap if you try and fight it it will be worse the link that Dani sent you from Dr Peter Harvey well worth reading and keeping a copy and give it to friends and family any questions you wanna ask just ask nothing still silly well done on completing treatment now it’s recovery there’s an old word called convalescence not many if us use it  anymore but that’s what you’ve got to go through now. A link to my blogs below give it a read it might help you with wants to come we are all different so you don’t get every side effect that we all get

    Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz 

    My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com  HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now  6 years  post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help

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