Fibrosis causing me problems

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Hi

About 4 years ago I had SCC on the base of my tongue which had spread to two lymph nodes in my neck, so I had 30 x RT sessions and 6 x Chemo. I've recovered well and am getting on with life (age 62). However, in the past year, I keep getting what I can only describe as a cramp in a specific place in my neck, pretty much where the original problem presented in my lymph nodes. It can come on several times a day, usually if I have looked down, or yawned, but can even happen if I smile. I can alleviate the pain when it happens by massaging the area and it will go away after approx. 30 seconds. I have mentioned it to my ENT consultant who says that it's fibrosis which is a side effect of the radiotherapy.

I accept the explanation from the consultant, but my question on this forum is whether anyone else has had this develop, and if so does it stay at this level or does it build and get worse over time. Also do you have any other ideas over and above massaging the area when it happens ? Many thanks in advance for any replies.

Keith

  • Hi  I’m 8 years post chemo radiotherapy for tonsil cancer with lymph nodes involved. Ive fibrosis on the heavily radiated side c started around 4 years ago mine hadn’t really changed love you I can manage it it doesn’t r cause me pain as such. I’m attending a webinar in late onset side effects next week if I learn anything new I’ll pop it in here 

    There is an hand held low level light machine made by Thor that’s has good results but I’ve not tried it cost wise it’s around £600  you could ask your consultant if they’ve tried it  

    Hazel 

    Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz 35 radiotherapy and 2 chemo  3 rd cancelled. HPV tonsil cancer 7 lymph nodes. 8 years post treatment living a great life. 
    No questions too daft to ask. 

    I’m also an ambassador for https://oraclehnc.org.uk/
    A leading head and neck cancer charity. 

    This is a link to a webinar i did with Oracle explaining the process of diagnosis. 

  • I have pins and needles practically constantly on my scalp behind my ear extending down my neck on the treatment side for the same BOT SCC as yours ( no chemo though)  It came on about 18 months ago. It’s always present and sometimes really intrudes. I have put this down to late onset RT effects. Fibrosis is a blanket term which may be responsible for my what I feel is a neuropathy. 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Also do you have any other ideas over and above massaging the area when it happens ?

    I just rub mine but if it’s truly fibrosis I would think some stretching exercises would do some good

    The webinar Hazel mentions is taking place on the 10th September on Z oom. One of the speakers is Emma Hallam who created the UKs first late effects clinic specifically for head and neck cancer 

    Here is a link to Oracle’s webinar website 

    https://oracleheadneckcanceruk.beaconforms.com/form/20517608

    where you will find a form to register but shape yourself as registration is closing soon  

    Ince you register you can post a question. The event is being recorded so you don’t actually have to be there to get an answer if you can’t make it. 

    The red light Hazel mentions is called Photobiomodulation and whereas Thor’s machine is generally designed for hospital use and is expensive I know Emma has trialled some home use ones. Another question worth asking. 
    Hope this helps 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Thanks Dani was going to pop the link on when I got home out at minute. I will put the recording link on here for those who can’t get ti see it. So far theyve  30 registered ill be in Spain  at Blane’s. will try to get on from there.  

    Hazel x

    Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz 35 radiotherapy and 2 chemo  3 rd cancelled. HPV tonsil cancer 7 lymph nodes. 8 years post treatment living a great life. 
    No questions too daft to ask. 

    I’m also an ambassador for https://oraclehnc.org.uk/
    A leading head and neck cancer charity. 

    This is a link to a webinar i did with Oracle explaining the process of diagnosis. 

  • Enjoy Spain  and send my regards to Blane.

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Will do xx

    Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz 35 radiotherapy and 2 chemo  3 rd cancelled. HPV tonsil cancer 7 lymph nodes. 8 years post treatment living a great life. 
    No questions too daft to ask. 

    I’m also an ambassador for https://oraclehnc.org.uk/
    A leading head and neck cancer charity. 

    This is a link to a webinar i did with Oracle explaining the process of diagnosis. 

  • 3 years since CRT finished... fibrosis is part of my new normal.... it's in the background most of the time and not a problem....I get a twinge now and again... massage and cocodamol usually sorts it...NSAIDS are a no-go for me.

    Michael