Looking for any help on quality of life.

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It seems where I’m at is very rare - at the bottom is a timeline of my disease and treatment but I was just looking for any advice from anyone to maybe just improve my quality of life at the moment. To try and keep it simple, I had hpv tonsil cancer, had the usual chemo radiation, followed by a neck dissection and then parotid removal. Given the all clear but then a few months later it was back further down my throat In my larynx/epiglottis area. I don’t think they can pinpoint it exactly behind the swelling. 
currently, I have no epiglottis. This ‘slothed off’ with some of the tumour after having been on 4 sessions of nivolumab. Initially they stopped this treatment telling me what they were seeing was true progression (at the time my throat was swelling and epiglottis closing my airway) amd put me on high dosage steroids over Xmas. As this happened my swallow deteriorated from what wasn’t a great one anyway until I was on liquids only. Liquid also started to get stuck around the back of my throat, I could drink as much as I wanted but the same amount would always remain, which I’d have to cough to clear every time. then I got a chest infection and my swallow was getting harder to clear. They suggested I was aspirating fluids and had possibly got aspiration pneumonia so wanted me nil by mouth, to feed, rest my chest and stop the infection. 
yesterday I started nivolumab again after having to have my ng tube put back in (it burst at 5am this morning doing a flush) and tiday my throat feels so much tighter, drier and breathing is difficult. I can hardly get any secretions up because I’m so dry from no fluids and unless i either lay on my side or sit upright with my head resting forward, saliva collects around the back of my throat that I can neither swallow, or cough up properly. It’s very uncomfortable and I’m so thirsty all the time. I hope this makes sense and I’ll answer anything I’ve missed or that doesn’t make sense. Sorry it’s so long ! But any suggestions even for me to be able to just sit up so I can watch tv would help! Here’s the time line- 

Timeline

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  • November 2017 tonsillectomy
  • December 2017 diagnosed with hpv cancer in both tonsils
  • December 26th 2017 rig fitted
  • Jan 2018 started 6 weeks radiochemo
  • June 2018 neck dissection to remove suspicious lymph nodes
  • October 2018 parotid removal/ given all clear
  • December 2018 felt pains in neck
  • Feb 2019 cat scan followed by biopsy showed cancer had returned / spread to lower neck (epiglottis, bass of tongue, super glottis) and lungs (small modules -  several)
  • May 2019 2 lots of chemo x 6. (One given on day, one given to take home for 5 days in a bottle) Small response to this after each treatment but bad side effects. Overall no significant response. Kept it at bay for the time I was treated.
  • October 2019 started nivolumab fortnightly infusions lasting an hour.
  • December 2019 stopped treatment due to airway and what oncologist suspected was true progression, started on steroids high dosage to get through Xmas and reduce airway swelling. Given weeks until I would suffocate. Recommended to have a tracheostomy over Xmas to be safe and look at what was left to explore after Xmas (possible full laryngectomy or probably just end of life care). Refused tracheostomy in favour of spending last Xmas with my 4 year old tube free with steroids.
  • Jan 2019 had CT scan and oncologist look down with camera. lung modules reduced, epiglottis and that part of cancer around the epiglottis all gone. Also sudden loss of more weight. Now down to around 8 stone (11.5 stone regular weight before cancer)
  • March 2020 - Restarted nivolumab with ng tube as now nil by mouth due to what is suspected to be aspiration pneumonia (had a chest infection). Swallow had gradually deteriorated to just liquids at this point.  Another peg scheduled to be fitted 17/03. Absolute torture not being allowed liquids.
  • Hi Stonecold, the only thing I can suggest is a using a nebuliser as it will help keep the mouth etc moist, I can only swallow thin liquids and had 2 long sessions where I was nil by mouth, once when I had a trachey fitted and then when I had a full laryngectomy. I  now use my PEG feeding tube for food supplements. Maybe they suggested the tracheostomy so it made life easier as you would be breathing through your neck rather than the mouth and nose , this is how I cough up mucus nowadays and it comes out of my stoma in my neck, its not the end if they did have to do a laryngectomy but that would only be done as a last resort. I remembered you from when you had your first procedure and you certainly have had to put up with a lot of since then. Let's hope they manage to sort a better way of life for you, I just wish I could offer more sound advice. All the very best mate.

                                                                                                Chris.

                            

    Its sometimes not easy but its worth it ! 

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to chris2012

    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for your reply. I remember you also, from previous advice and the wealth of experience you’ve kindly passed on to members here including myself. It just seems like one thing after another. But basically just before Xmas I was in the situation whereby I was on last chance treatment (nivolumab), the tumour around my epiglottis was closing off my airway to the point where they were saying ‘look this is the end if we do nothing’ and these are your options -

    1. Tracheostomy just so I could breath in the short term, but with nothing planned longer term. Just time with my family. However this would have meant staying in hospital over Xmas. 
    2. possible laryngectomy but not recommended because of my lung mets, they thought it was probably 50/50 whether I would heal or not. So I’d have a maybe 50% chance of living 5/6 months with a laryngectomy or 50% chance of never leaving hospital and having continual operations until my body gave up. 
    3. Do nothing and die at home 

    i decided to risk it and try and get through Xmas with just steroids, which I managed to somehow. Then I was considering the laryngectomy but they talked me out of it in the end with the risks involved. 

    when I went back in January my mind was made up just to have the tracheostomy. But somehow, they’re all baffled, everything just reduced over Xmas and the tumour that was blocking my airway was gone but unfortunately so had my entire epiglottis!

    i have a nebuliser and also bought a humidifier. They’re hit and miss because the remaining tumour(s), they block my cough so although I can eventually get them loose, coughing them out and clear is still another story - more soreness etc in chest, throat!

    the people involved don’t seem to care about quality of life at the minute and are going for then safest option available ‘on paper’. I’m hoping the peg might help and also they’ll help with my swallow soon too. Just drinking small thin fluids would make my day  at the minute.