Stage 4 out of the blue

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  1. My story is very long,  but I had cervical cancer about 15 yrs ago, had a radical hysterectomy,  followed by complete vagina removal,  they tried to do a reconstruction  , it failed and they almost killed me reconstruction removed,  alongside partial bladder ajd bowel to save my life, only.to discover I never should have had original hysterectomy ect and should have had immunotherapy.  I lost my husband (affair), home and career. 
  2. Had a pretty life since for various reasons,  but always bounced back amd 'got on with it'.

Always left in pain, and discomfort and repeated infections for all these years. 

Had a few problems a month or 2 ago (bleeding when peeing) which was new, after various investigations, I was told today (although we had discussed that I probably did have cancer again) informed its in the lymph nodes and is stage 4. I feel so alone,  frightened sad and angry.  I'm sorry it's not a positive post but I don't know what to do. 

  • You truly are welcome  x

  • Morning  

    How are you doing today? Just wanted to check in with you.

    Sarah xx


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  • Hiya,  sort of OK, been messed about with my appointment next week, so was getting very stressed,  but hopefully sorted now, I tip between to being ' hopeful ' and so so frightened. But i managed to at sleep last night , the nights awake are the worst aren't they? Thanks for checking in on me xx I hope you are OK too?

  • It’s normal to be scared of course but keeping hope is very important too. My view was that there was always hope until I was told there absolutely wasn’t, and that never happened to me! Your oncologist has mentioned the possibility of chemo and immunotherapy, so I’d hold onto that as being hope. 

    It adds stress when appointments are messed about but it’s very common, sometimes with no explanation, which doesn’t help. But I hope you’ve got your new time for next Tuesday now. 

    Those sleepless nights are the worst time for our minds going crazy with thoughts in the darkness, I agree. I have had many sleepless nights due to pain in the past, so I was often up to make a cup of tea and fill a hot water bottle. Nowadays I sleep very well generally thank goodness! 

    Did you have scans and results before you got told your news? You only mentioned about the cancer being in the lymphodes and that would normally be stage 3 if it’s just there and hasn’t spread to other organs to put it at stage 4. But your appointment should explain everything in detail.

    I’m doing ok thank you-trying to stop my little cat from scratching my sofa to bits is keeping me busy today!

    Sarah xx


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  • I was shocked when they said it was stage 4.ni assumed it would be 2 or 3, I sort of guessed it had come back and they forewarned me at the 1st appointments that the biopsy had cancer cells, unfortunately they can't biopsy the groin at all as it's impossible and too dangerous to get to them due to tall the previous surgery and scar tissue,  but they biopsied a mass besidenit (by going up through my anus) and that mass (right next to the going lymph node) was full of fluid and they drained it andnit showed cancer cells. They have diagnosed all the rest by numerous different scans. This showed a problem area in my left shoulder/neck lymoh node which they then biopsied and they came back cancerous.  So for some reason it's bypassed every where else and travelled from the right groin nodes around and up to my left neck clavicle area. I think that's why it's classed as stage 4?

  • Ah, I see. I’m sorry to have asked such a distressing question but it was to help me understand more of the physical side of things. The spread is through the lymphatic system it seems like, and when it reaches nodes outside the pelvis, as in the shoulder, neck area, then it’s unfortunately stage 4 so I understand the diagnosis better now. 

    That’s some horrible things you’ve had to go through to get here…but chemo is systemic treatment going throughout your whole body, and immunotherapy is getting your own body to recognise and attack cancer cells so it’s powerful to use these two treatments in combination. 

    But my heart feels sad for you-you’ve been through so much over these last years, far more than most people would ever have to endure, and it’s unbelievably cruel to have to go through more. But keep in touch, and I hope I can at least be another friend for you whenever you need to talk.

    Sarah xx


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  • You really have been fantastic and I mean that, a friend for life I think. No know I shouldn't read things about it all, but it's human nature isn't it? One article will say they have good results,  another will say not a good prognosis, it's  all so confusing. X

  • I just prat my cancer is the 'type ' that means I can have the immunotherapy as well.

  • I never read anything on the internet, as it’s not always helpful or correct, but it would have been scary for me. I just trusted in my surgeons-but I know that could be difficult for you given what happened to you before. But I didn’t have a great chance of good results, I know that from what my surgeon told my partner. I’m glad I didn’t know at the time, and just kept the hope that I’d be ok. 

    I’m not sure how they’ll test for suitability for immunotherapy-usually from what I’ve learned, it’s by testing a sample from a tumour but there may be other ways I’m not aware of. They’ll tell you all about it at the hospital, and ask the consultant as many questions as you want so you find out as much as you need. 

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  • Yes they said that's what they will do, but I'm unsure if they use the biopsy they took the other week or now have to do another one, they said it takes 2-3 weeks.so I'm hoping they have=will use that one,  if only to speed things up,nim already well-versed the 62nday recommended time for starting treatment, this concerns me greatly