Hello ladies,
I am 2 years post treatment for stage 3 cervical cancer (radiotherapy chemotherapy and brachytherapy.) I am really struggling as a 39 year old plunged into menopause, people around me just think I'm cured now and thats it but mentally i am struggling a lot, i don't recognise myself anymore & i feel like I'm grieving my old-self. I can’t be the only one to feel like this? At least during treatment i was told what I needed to do where I needed to be but now i just feel completely lost, anxious & sad not to mention completely traumatised.
Im looking for support groups to speak to people who have been through the same, there are none so I have joined this forum x
Hi Mimmi and welcome to our group.
I’m so glad to have you post and be here with us.
I just typed a long reply to you and lost it all! As it’s really late, I will re do my post tomorrow and remember to save it this time! I didn’t want you to think your post hadn’t been heard-it has- and I can completely understand your feelings,
Let me reply tomorrow morning and I will share some of my own experiences and feelings, and hopefully you will see you are not alone with this.
Sarah xx
Hi Mimmi
The standard treatment for our cancer is tough, and is over a relatively short period of time so it’s very intense. I found it hard when it was over-especially having 32 radiotherapy sessions-and felt very vulnerable and almost cast adrift when it finished. Suddenly after so many daily appointments, reviews, being positioned for radiotherapy there was nothing except the wait for the post treatment scan. That was difficult for me.
Once I got past the scan and a NED result, things did feel a little better, and I got on with life, but there was always the fear of recurrence at the back of my mind though everyone assumed I was cured and should be fine now. When my cancer recurred only 9 months after treatment ended, it was like a body blow, and the fear was worse than when I was first diagnosed. It was difficult to feel positive this time.
I underwent a very scary few months, eventually ending up with a total pelvic exenteration which saved my life but changed me forever, physically and mentally. There was no psychological help at all offered to me, and by the time I was about a year out from surgery, I was in a very bad place mentally so I asked for help.
My lead surgeon, who was my consultant, seemed astonished that I should need this and that actually shocked me, but I did get some counselling which helped somewhat at the time.
My life has been very difficult over the past few years, with other health issues, and eventually this year I broke down in hospital after having a stroke. Finally I was listened to and I have had weekly counselling ever since, but it took this major event for me to get the help I needed.
I had never discussed my surgery with other people in my life-how do you even start a conversation with people about having 2 stomas and having your vagina removed? I found it impossible, and so people assumed I had been in hospital for a hysterectomy ( I think-although my next door neighbour asked me when I was having my mastectomy!). I found myself unable to tell anyone, so I just had my partner and closest friend to talk with.
My therapist now has been hugely important-I have a non judgemental person to listen, and allow me to cry and express what I’m feeling. She acknowledges what I’ve been through and the fact that I have ptsd caused by the trauma I’ve been through. If I had been able to have consistent counselling after my surgery, or even before in preparation, I might have coped better but I was left alone to deal with everything in the first covid lockdown.
My ptsd centres around scans, in particular the mri machine. I refused an mri scan last year for an unrelated issue because of my fear but was able to have a CT scan eventually, shaking and crying and refusing to go into the scanning room at first. This is how bad I have been. This year I again needed scans of my brain and neck, but with the help of very understanding staff I was able to go through with them.
So, I completely get where you’re coming from about the feelings of trauma and sadness. Have you ever had counselling, or would you consider it? I think it has really saved me this year and has hugely improved how I am feeling.
In terms of other things, there was limited support for my situation online so I set up my own support group which is flourishing now and I have made many new friends who are very important to me and completely understand because they have been through the same. I did this almost 4 years ago now, and it’s been one of the best things I’ve ever started. If you haven’t been able to find anything, you could start something yourself? Speaking to others who “get it” is very different to speaking to family and friends who cannot.
We’ve had a number of members in the group here who have successfully come through treatment for stage 3 and I’ll tag a couple of ladies I hope will see this post and also respond to you. Snobird Lulabell
I will look for others I can tag in a subsequent post, and also give you a link to a paper I and many others have found really helpful which goes through the cancer post treatment experience. I still now go back and re read this. We also have a “life after cancer” forum where you can find people who are feeling the same wat as you are which might be helpful, and I’ll give you the link to that too.
You are very much not alone, though it might feel like that, but you’ve made the leap to make your post, and I hope you will find the group and community in general will be helpful for you.
Take care, and I hope we’ll chat again.
Sarah xx
Thank you for your reply.
You really have been thrown everything your way , how amazing turning lets be honest an absolute sh1t show of events into something positive with the support group.
i just find it so strange how you go from being at the hospital every day , appointments after appointments to absolutely nothing but your thoughts. In a weird way i miss those long chemo days chatting to people in the room & friends checking in on me to now nothing. Or even when i am asked how i am i just say fine most of the time. Ive always been the sociable one the jolly one , now i get anxious about being in normal everyday situations.
i have had counselling but maybe its time for more.
I’ve gone from grateful to angry & now just sad especially for my 8 year old son who would love a sibling . I know i need to find a way to navigate through my feelings and just enjoy the life i have.
this is a bit of a ramble sorry but thank you for reading.
Hi
i am also now on week 5 post treatment and fully understand how you feel. I feel exactly the same as you- it felt like a thankyou for letting us torture you and now piss off and deal with the aftermath! I live in my own and felt so lost, no one to answer my questions or explain the after effects I was going through. I have days of worry, new symptoms, tears, panic and then other days feel like I should be happy to be alive.
i am now at the point now where my head wants to go out shopping or spring clean the house but my body won’t let me go go go.
I have found great support from a nurse from my GP surgery, she comes and takes my blood tests every week as I am constantly low in magnesium.
I have just allowed myself to live in the moment and take each day, even each hour as it comes.
You will get there and everyone on here is great for support.
You can ramble as much as you’d like to Mimmi -the group is a safe place to share your feelings. I found I just gave the automatic response ‘“I’m fine” when I definitely wasn’t, but people accepted it and no-one really asks me how I am nowadays. People in general can be uncomfortable about talking to those of us who have been through cancer-there is still fear about it.
I think we go through quite a range of emotions at different times depending on our own personal situations like you being sad for your son not having a sibling. It might be time to explore getting some more counselling to work through things. It doesn’t change overnight-I am no positive Pollyanna! But I have tried to change some of the ways I was feeling and I can see that’s helping me. I didn’t want to be bitter about what’s happened to me, but inevitably those feelings creep in from time to time and I have to work hard at seeing the silver linings and appreciating my life instead of mourning the one I’ve lost. It’s a work in progress for me and I want to feel I’m winning at it.
Keep chatting with us here, and I hope it makes you feel more connected with those of us who understand.
Sarah xx
Thanks for replying, its so refreshing to hear your words and all my thoughts and feelings are normal.
I'm 2 years post treatment so feel like i really should be starting to get some kind of normality back now. I definitely feel its time for more counselling, im sure most of my feelings are caused by menopause.
i just miss the old me so much ,
Hi Mimmi. I am sorry you are suffering these emotions although I completely understand and identify with them. I too am 2.5 years out of treatment and I still stress so much when waiting for a check up appointment. I agree wholeheartedly that it causes feelings of anger when people around you talk about it in the past tense as if it's all over. I think any cancer patient regards themselves still as a cancer patient whether it be two weeks post treatment or five years!!
I can't imagine the day when I will ever consider this to be a thing of the past. I hope the day will come but I can't imagine it yet... Your feelings are perfectly normal. Are you working and were you working before treatment began? One thing on a positive note is that I want to help others if I can who are travelling the same path as we have with the benefit of my experience. Your feelings are perfectly normal and I consider that I've gained a bit in confidence as I have always been a very timid soul but now I feel that I can cope with many things I struggled with before. Each cancer journey is very different and everyone takes their own time to deal with it and come through it. I know I'm not there yet but I hope I'm not too far away and you will come through the other side of this in your own time.
Hi Mimmi,
I can also totally identify with what you are saying. I think we all must have some form of post traumatic stress after all we have been through. And the fact that we seem better doesn't always help, as people tell me I am a cancer survivor, as if it's something I did to earn that title. Also, I have been told it couldn't have been that bad or serious because I have pulled through it all and the chemo I had couldn't have been that strong as I didn't lose my hair!! On good days I can feel glad that these comments are made by people who have never had to face anything as horrifying as cancer diagnosis and treatment, but on bad days I give them a mouthful.
Little do they know, every twinge makes me think there is a problem. Everyday I wonder if my life will stay on track now or be thrown to the wind again.
Not to mention my sex life, which has changed completely. It's frustrating for me and for my husband. I seem to have lost all my sex drive, I find it painful and terribly dry and just can't be bothered anymore.
Some days I feel so angry, some days so sad, some days so lucky. It depends on how I wake up.
I think this forum is a great place to vent, we are strangers, except we aren't really because we have been through similar experiences and are now going through the aftermath.
I hope you are having a good day today and are finding ways to manage. Little things can help a lot, music, coffee, TV series, a sunset, a long walk..... we need to find things which can offer some comfort.
Wishing you a peaceful Christmas,
Lulabell
Morning All
i really enjoy reading the messages on here - I find they really help me to understand that what I am going through and my emotional rollercoaster is the new norm!
I totally agree with what u say Lulabell- family and friends constantly tell me how strong I am and to stay positive. I have days where I cry my eyes out and am fed up of being strong. I have days where I cry because some I people have a worse outcome than me and then I feel guilty that I ( fingers crossed) should have a good outcome.
I was so sociable and outgoing- always the life and soul of any party and now with my incontinence issues I worry I will never have a night out again. I can just about get up and down a few isles in Asda and I get bad back pain and sore down below- like an ache.
when will I be me again- I wonder.
Anyway- Happy Friday ladies and thanks for a place to rant and share our thoughts x x
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