I'm seeing my consultant tomorrow - annual review. He's not the easiest of people to talk to - he's in a rush (understandably) & very matter of fact. The status of my brain fog will dictate whether I'll be able to open up a reasoned discussion for ceasing Letrozole after 2.5 years (I'm on it for 10years). Please could I have a practice run here? Could anyone tell me how to be more concise or whether I'm wasting his valuable time by asking in the first place?
Brief history. 2014 Total hysterectomy -(repeated Cin1 cells & adenomyosis.) 2021 Right mastectomy Lobular 40mm ,ER+ grade 2 plus unsuccessful left lumpectomy for DCIS 13mm, ER+ grade 1 resulting in further mastectomy 6 weeks later. 3 lymph nodes removed either side - clear.
Protracted recovery from surgery due to infection & extreme sensitivity to all products, dressings etc. No reconstruction planned. No radiotherapy or chemo. Treatment: Letrozole 10 years with daily antihistamine & VitD .
Usual reactions to Letrozole - major hot flushes, anxiety, aches, pains, tiredness, brain fog, digestive issues etc . . Mood swings are pretty horrendous & I've just come out of a very bleak period & i'm not sure I can face another. I had a short period on antidepressants as breast cancer diagnosis & treatment conincided with a few of life's other curve balls but my body doesn't react well to any intervention, surgical or chemical. I've been told the Letrozole side effects I'm experiencing are similar to the menopause on steriods -some folk suffer worse that others but am I one of those or do most grin & bear it? I've always been at the mercy of my hormones & the horrors of PMT but II worry that endocrine treatment is going to tip me over the edge.
6 week trial period off Letrozole early last year eased joint pains & stiffness & hot flushes reduced. Lost my nerve though & started back on the Letrozole . Hot flushes came back with avengence.& mood swings & depression really hit hard. .
I've had a full set of bloods done via GP last month & everything clear so no underlying conditions.
So what do I ask ....
Believe my cancer was 'low grade'? I've had a double mastectomy with clear lymph nodes so if I stop endocrine treatment what is the % of risk of cancer re-occurence?
I just feel I need to be asking more but don't know what. ... any advice would be appreciated. Thank you. :)
Hi Wren21,
Sending huge good lucks for your review tomorrow. I feel very similar when I go to see the breast consultant - everyone says how lovely he is but while I have complete respect for his professional care I def don’t relate to his manner. When I started to feel a bit more in control after so many emotionally destructive appointments, I decided that I had nothing to lose so became as forthright as he was (not my natural ‘setting’ at all). I am also lucky enough to have just the kindest & approachable oncologist so I try to remember what the breast guy says & ask the oncologist to clarify things for me. It makes the appointments far less daunting knowing there’s a point of contact that I trust completely. Do you have anyone else on your care team who might have a gentler approach & make you feel more comfortable to explain your concerns? You sound perfectly clear and understandably concerned to me.
With regards to Letrozole, I’m just coming up to a year on it, alongside Abemaciclib, so relatively early days for me. The oncologist said that for hormone sensitive cancer, Letrozole was the most important to stick with but that there was some sort of additional medication that we could consider if things started to get too overwhelming (I’m guessing anti depressant). Def like menopause on steroids & I relate to the bleak periods - can sometimes feel my mood plummeting & still trying to work out ways to avoid this. Like you, it all comes on the back of a few huge life curveballs too so not sure if it’s all Letrozole or if taking it just makes everything more difficult to deal with. I suspect the latter . Brain fog, difficulty making decisions, emotional resilience, general cancer battle fatigue - such fun. TheHighlander on this site explains it beautifully as your life rucksack being just too full & I think Letrozole for some of us metaphorically makes even carrying that heavy load bewildering.
You probably know all this already, so apologies. I have read some people say different brands have different impacts due to fillers but I don’t think I’ve been on it long enough to see a pattern. I do have one top tip that might help you - during menopause (I’m 55) I hit on apple cider vinegar to help hot flushes. I checked with the oncologist who was happy for me to carry on with it throughout chemo & now. For me it’s amazing - literally no hot flushes/heat rushes from the first time I took it. I take about 1cm (sorry don’t know the mls) in a big glass of water each morning. It’s just a little thing, but if it helps a little bit then Yay!
I hope things go well tomorrow. Like you, I probably wouldn’t know what to ask (whatever was left of my intelligent thinking brain packed it’s bags & left the building entirely during chemo) but I try not to worry too much about waffling on (as you can tell) if I eventually say what I meant to say - & know that someone on here usually has great advice too. Just a thought, maybe tell your consultant that Letrozole is making organising your thoughts difficult at times so what sort of questions have other patients asked at this stage.
Hugs,
Jo
Hi Wren 21
I would definitely ask for percentages of 10 year survival without the drugs and then with the drugs because there might not be too much difference. At least if you know you can make an informed choice of what to do.
It's easy to be intimidated by Medical stuff especially if your consultant seems to be in a hurry but it's your appointment and your body.
Good luck for tomorrow x
Hi, sorry, coming a bit late to this. Is there someone that can go with you tomorrow, to help make sure you can get your points across and to also note down what the responses are? I found I handled things better when my husband was with me and between the two of us we had a better chance of remembering what was said. Our hospital prefers you to come alone to appointments but I never had a problem bringing my husband for the review with the consultant. Best wishes and good luck
Think I might have drivveled on a bit - don't seem to know what point I'm trying to make so can't ever get to it , sorry.
Please don't think I was implying you were overestimating the impact of Letrozole. More that the stuff makes all the other hard stuff even harder.
(Re. apple cider vinegar, it has to be with 'the mother' which is the really unappetising looking cloudy stuff at the bottom. Lidl do a cheap but organic one which seems to work as well as the more expensive Aspall's one.)
Kind thoughts coming your way,
Jo
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