I have two questions regarding stats.
1. The NHS PREDICT nomogram seems to indicate that after surgery on breast cancer, there is very little statistical improvement to overall survival when adding either hormone therapy or chemotherapy. Usually it is less than 1% and often 0.4% to 0.6%. If we take 1% at the 5 year milestone that = an extra 18.25 days of life. At 0.4% that = an extra 7.3 days of life. These extra days of life can be doubled up at the 10 year interval, so that would be an 36.5 days and 14.6 days respectively, if my arithmetic is correct.
Considering the often considerable negative side effects of these treatments is this worth those extra days? It is the cost/benefit, or quality versus quantity question!
2. Many/most of the research papers I read say that hormone therapy 'statistically reduces the incidence of recurrence' but generally also says somewhere in the analysis that H.T. does not improve O.S. overall survival. I don't quite understand this! Are they saying that if you don't take the H.T. you will have a recurrence, and thus will require intervention, but you will not die from the recurrence? So again what about the cost to benefit?
Does the benefit boil down to........ avoiding the stress and trauma of further discovery and surgery?
Am I interpreting all this correctly?
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Have you looked at this?
Remember that as your wife hasn't yet had surgery her current details (size, stage, nodal status etc.) could all change. Two weeks after my ultrasound I had surgery. I went from 1 x ER 8/8, PR 7/8, HER2- , 23mm tumour with clear nodes (based on 3 mammograms, an ultrasound and samples taken at biopsy) to 27mm grade 1/2 ER and PR8/8, HER2-, PLUS a small intermediate area of DCIS and 1 node positive. The gain at 10 years for me is 4% from taking the tablets, so a 1/11 chance of dying at 10 years is improved to 1/17 chance.
Yes, it was the NHS PREDICT nomogram I was referring to. I ran my wife's data (as far as we know it) through it. I also read the supporting information.
The other unknown until surgery is whether she has LVI or not, and Predict doesn't include that.
Thanks. I never thought of that, although I should have from my own personal experience with cancer.
Fingers crossed she doesn't! X
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