capecitabine for stage 2b or not...difficult decision

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I had a successful colon resection a month ago (no stoma) and my TNM staging is moderately differentiated adenocarcinoma, T2 NOMO, (0/12 lymph nodes) EMVI -ve, RO, MMR intact. I am 53. I had a follow up appointment at the marsden with an oncologist last week and left it feeling confused and undecided. I have been told I am low risk, stage 2b, but have been offered 6 months of capecitabine. I was given a booklet showing side effects but not really anything verbally or in writing as to why I should have it. From my research it is generally only given to stage 2b if there are risk factors and I have been told I am low risk. The only information I was given is it can provide a 2 to 3% additional 5 year survival which is already at about 80% survival. They also told me everyone as a standard course of action with stage 2 cancer will be offered the chemo and it is completely up to them to decide whether to do it or not.   To be honest i was expecting a little more information on why I specifically might benefit from chemo and i was not given that, just a repeat of the 2 to 3%...statistics but they did not explain where these statistics come from. I know I am in a gray area but I thought if one was low risk then chemo was not recommended unless I am on some sort of clinical trial perhaps? I was after an expert opinion and have come away feeling like I didn't get that and as a non medical person I do not know what to do. I can't find anything on line suggesting that it may be a benefit for low risk T3...and as anyone would be am worried about side effects which can include death...I don't mean to complain and in the whole scheme of things I feel very lucky and I saw some very unwell patients of course while I was at the marsden and I feel blessed that I don't have a higher stage but I really don't know what to do. If I do do chemo then that means another CT scan not even 2 months after the last which is also more exposure to radiation.  I know this is a personal decision that only I can make but while i know the side effects no one has sat me down to explain what the benefit might be specifically for me, even though I have asked.

  • Hi 

    Welcome to the forum . I really do feel sorry for people in your position as it’s one of the harder decisions to make . Risk / benefits analysis is tough given the information is limited .

    I have thought about people in your situation often and the complexities involved . I still would not be able to give any guidance for the reasons you stated but I would probably seek a second opinion out with my health authority. Not so much out of a lack of trust but to ensure another clinician would take the same course of action or could share some other angle that would assist .

    Even if it was just for some peace of mind as this is a big decision. 
    In terms of radiotherapy exposure I don’t know the exact science but I do know my mum has had over 35 scans and no one seemed overly concerned . Needs must etc . She never had any actual radiotherapy .

    Take care ,

    Court 

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  • Thanks for replying Court, I will look at older posts. For a lot of people it is a simpler decision ie if a lymph node is involved. I think I will ask for a second opinion as you suggested. I had had such a great experience with the surgeons and team at the hospital and I though the Marsden would be a similar and I would be exposed to their expertise and that was not really the case.

  • Exactly , even one obvious risk factor would give you a clearer pathway . However you have very reasonable questions that need more concrete answers when it comes to your health .

    Some oncologist are very much researched based and know what’s currently being studied . 
    Our helpline staff can let you know how to process it .

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    Take care ,

    Court 

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  • It's possibly because your report states EMVI - (Extramural Venous Invasion,) which means some cancer cells were picked up in a nearby vein - thereby presenting a small risk of recurrence.

    This was also on my report; however, my Oncologist was adamant that I was low risk also, & did not need chemo - which I was obviously pleased about. However, in my case, one year later, a CT Scan picked up 2 small Lung Nodules. Then I was put on 6 cycles of Capecitabine - with the hope of shrinking them, prior to Lung Ablation - which worked.

    This tablet form of Chemo is generally tolerated well - & although it can have side effects, it is usually less so than treatments that involve infusions. I suffered no ill effects, until the 5th cycle - when I suffered Palmar Plantar in my hands & feet.

    I believe that the risks of Chemo are often greater for the elderly.

    With regards to CT scans - you will probably need these at six month intervals for the first three years. Apparently they present minimum radiation & are not a danger to the body.

    I wish you luck with your decision.

    Best wishes

    Marianne

  • Thanks Marianne it is nice actually to read from someone who has had the capecitabine and to have it work. My report says EMVI negative so no veinous invastion. I can't see any risk factors, I had genetic testing as well as my mother had bowel cancer and that also has not found nay genetic markers. I am going to seek a different opinion, actually seek an opinion from an oncologist, I figure it is more up to them than me to be up to date with the latest research and medical treatment for people like me, even if its a gray area.

  • Hi.it is a hard decision.I had 60 lymph nodes checked and all clear but there was a question mark over whether anything in some surrounding fat which had been removed

    I decided to throw everything at the cancer then I had tried my best(I had already had a panproctocolectomy)I felt that that way if it came back I had tried my very best

    So I had 4 months of Capox( oxaliplatin and capecitabine) and Fingers crossed 3 yrs on Im fine

    Obviously it is a personal decision but thought I would just say what I did

    Best wishes and do click on my name for how I got on

    Kath

  • Apologies, I mis read your histology.

    Yes, the stats. presented re. mop up chemo are very low. I think I was quoted 1.5 - 2% by the Oncologist at the time.

  • thanks Kath. It is nice to hear good stories like yours. 

  • Thanks.as you can see from my bio,it wasnt all plain sailing but I got there,as will you.

    Kath