I had a successful colon resection a month ago (no stoma) and my TNM staging is moderately differentiated adenocarcinoma, T2 NOMO, (0/12 lymph nodes) EMVI -ve, RO, MMR intact. I am 53. I had a follow up appointment at the marsden with an oncologist last week and left it feeling confused and undecided. I have been told I am low risk, stage 2b, but have been offered 6 months of capecitabine. I was given a booklet showing side effects but not really anything verbally or in writing as to why I should have it. From my research it is generally only given to stage 2b if there are risk factors and I have been told I am low risk. The only information I was given is it can provide a 2 to 3% additional 5 year survival which is already at about 80% survival. They also told me everyone as a standard course of action with stage 2 cancer will be offered the chemo and it is completely up to them to decide whether to do it or not. To be honest i was expecting a little more information on why I specifically might benefit from chemo and i was not given that, just a repeat of the 2 to 3%...statistics but they did not explain where these statistics come from. I know I am in a gray area but I thought if one was low risk then chemo was not recommended unless I am on some sort of clinical trial perhaps? I was after an expert opinion and have come away feeling like I didn't get that and as a non medical person I do not know what to do. I can't find anything on line suggesting that it may be a benefit for low risk T3...and as anyone would be am worried about side effects which can include death...I don't mean to complain and in the whole scheme of things I feel very lucky and I saw some very unwell patients of course while I was at the marsden and I feel blessed that I don't have a higher stage but I really don't know what to do. If I do do chemo then that means another CT scan not even 2 months after the last which is also more exposure to radiation. I know this is a personal decision that only I can make but while i know the side effects no one has sat me down to explain what the benefit might be specifically for me, even though I have asked.
Welcome to the forum . I really do feel sorry for people in your position as it’s one of the harder decisions to make . Risk / benefits analysis is tough given the information is limited .
I have thought about people in your situation often and the complexities involved . I still would not be able to give any guidance for the reasons you stated but I would probably seek a second opinion out with my health authority. Not so much out of a lack of trust but to ensure another clinician would take the same course of action or could share some other angle that would assist .
Even if it was just for some peace of mind as this is a big decision.
In terms of radiotherapy exposure I don’t know the exact science but I do know my mum has had over 35 scans and no one seemed overly concerned . Needs must etc . She never had any actual radiotherapy .
Take care ,
Court
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Thanks for replying Court, I will look at older posts. For a lot of people it is a simpler decision ie if a lymph node is involved. I think I will ask for a second opinion as you suggested. I had had such a great experience with the surgeons and team at the hospital and I though the Marsden would be a similar and I would be exposed to their expertise and that was not really the case.
Exactly , even one obvious risk factor would give you a clearer pathway . However you have very reasonable questions that need more concrete answers when it comes to your health .
Some oncologist are very much researched based and know what’s currently being studied .
Our helpline staff can let you know how to process it .
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Take care ,
Court
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It's possibly because your report states EMVI - (Extramural Venous Invasion,) which means some cancer cells were picked up in a nearby vein - thereby presenting a small risk of recurrence.
This was also on my report; however, my Oncologist was adamant that I was low risk also, & did not need chemo - which I was obviously pleased about. However, in my case, one year later, a CT Scan picked up 2 small Lung Nodules. Then I was put on 6 cycles of Capecitabine - with the hope of shrinking them, prior to Lung Ablation - which worked.
This tablet form of Chemo is generally tolerated well - & although it can have side effects, it is usually less so than treatments that involve infusions. I suffered no ill effects, until the 5th cycle - when I suffered Palmar Plantar in my hands & feet.
I believe that the risks of Chemo are often greater for the elderly.
With regards to CT scans - you will probably need these at six month intervals for the first three years. Apparently they present minimum radiation & are not a danger to the body.
I wish you luck with your decision.
Best wishes
Marianne
Thanks Marianne it is nice actually to read from someone who has had the capecitabine and to have it work. My report says EMVI negative so no veinous invastion. I can't see any risk factors, I had genetic testing as well as my mother had bowel cancer and that also has not found nay genetic markers. I am going to seek a different opinion, actually seek an opinion from an oncologist, I figure it is more up to them than me to be up to date with the latest research and medical treatment for people like me, even if its a gray area.
Hi.it is a hard decision.I had 60 lymph nodes checked and all clear but there was a question mark over whether anything in some surrounding fat which had been removed
I decided to throw everything at the cancer then I had tried my best(I had already had a panproctocolectomy)I felt that that way if it came back I had tried my very best
So I had 4 months of Capox( oxaliplatin and capecitabine) and 3 yrs on Im fine
Obviously it is a personal decision but thought I would just say what I did
Best wishes and do click on my name for how I got on
Kath
Apologies, I mis read your histology.
Yes, the stats. presented re. mop up chemo are very low. I think I was quoted 1.5 - 2% by the Oncologist at the time.
thanks Kath. It is nice to hear good stories like yours.
Thanks.as you can see from my bio,it wasnt all plain sailing but I got there,as will you.
Kath
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