Treatment ok (so far) but somehow I'm pessimistic

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Have had recent treatment for a high grade prostate tumor and a pancreatic tumor, it's early days but the consultants say the outlook is good.  Nevertheless, I feel "afflicted" and although there are so many people that seem to take cancer in their stride, even get energised to fight it, I don't feel that way. At 60 I feel it's a bit early (although of course there are so many that experience this much earlier) and also that it will likely shorten my life.  None of my friends have had to deal with this personally, and all seem detached or upbeat on my condition. I feel like there's a onus to be positive, but I don't want to be. Which isn't really like me, normally I am supremely optimistic.    

  • Thank you Sarah, that is really wonderful response. I am always interested hearing on how others process their cancer experience.  It's great that six years in you are around and coping.  I'm also not a fan of the military terminology, right from the get go I decided I am not going to use "battling" or "fighting" instead I prefer dealing.  It's interesting what you say about doctors noting better outcomes for those who maintain a positive outlook. I have to remind myself to be that way or at least try to be that way.  I think personal circumstances (how well you life is going, finances, etc) have an impact on that too, and I feel that those who are "living their best life" are better suited to take cancer in stride.  And yet, as you say, we need to simply be grateful for being here, for being alive.  I do try to boost me sense of gratitude when I go out and see the trees (or even the motorway signs lol) and just remind myself life goes on. xx  

  • I hope it’s helped a little to see that there is another side to things and we are all unique and different in how we approach and deal with things. I much prefer to use words like dealing and coping.

    I don’t want to feel like a victim, and for me the whole battling and fighting stuff implies that if you “lose the battle” you have somehow failed when in actual fact you haven’t-I feel it dismisses the importance of our life and who we are-which for me is not a person defined solely by my cancer. But those kinds of words are used so much in journalism etc that they are ingrained in us. I make a conscious effort to avoid using these phrases and I never use euphemisms like "the big c” etc. it’s just a word, and I don’t even give cancer a capital letter.

    It was a couple of years ago when I was having surgery to have my gallbladder removed after already having had massive pelvic surgery that my doctor mentioned positivity affecting outcomes. He was a gastro doc, so this was new to me having been treated for cervical cancer. My medical file was huge(!) and the new doctor was quickly scanning through it. He told me I was “remarkable” for facing up to more surgery with a positive attitude after what I’d already been through, then said how much my attitude would help me going forward.

    Was I scared? Of course I was-I’d been warned of the risks that more surgery might mean for me and my surgery ultimately took 4 times longer than normal because of the previous surgery. But I simply smiled at him and said that once again I was putting my trust in the experts and I am pleased to say I had an amazingly quick recovery which surprised the surgeon! 

    I am housebound due to being disabled so my world can feel small, but I can sit in the garden sometimes and listen to the birds-a simple thing which does boost my mood. I chat on the phone to my closest friend for hours, I try to keep busy and I don’t dwell on the negative because I know it won’t serve me well. I get down sometimes, like anyone else, I get frustrated by what I can no longer do, but I can still go on holiday and feel the sun on my face, I still spend more time laughing than crying and most important of all, I keep going. 

    Sarah xx


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  • Thanks again Sarah.  Having to go through further surgery really spooks me. My recent one was my first experience and during the immediate recovery I didn't entirely want to be around (which is maybe over dramatic, but I don't know, I haven't dealt with serious illness before). I am trying to not think about a future intervention, but it is in the back of my mind. It's great to hear that you have continued treatment (your 'journey' if that's not too euphemistic a term) with confidence and positive outlook.  Spring is almost here (saw the new croci yesterday) so you will have more and more chances to listen to the birds. x 

  • My experience has been like yours, I have lots of identification, friends and family would say , stay positive you can fight this, well there not in my position going through chemo which I had every side affect and felt quite unwell all the way through, I was sick at every infusion, though they mean well and say it with love, what I understand about fighting anything is that it puts on your shoulders that you either win or loose and if you loose you fail, so I don’t take any notice of the term I’m fighting cancer, being positive for me is trying to live one day at a time, not thinking, yes I’m going to get through this because that could be wishful thinking.

  • Thank you Sarah,

    realistic positivity, your so right !

  • I’m of the same thought.Cancer free now and very glad of that.Thankful that I only had surgery and survived it when it didn’t look hopeful.We all find our own way to process the diagnosis and get on with treatment.As my aunt says I’m happy but realistic.I don’t like the fighting cancer talk and got sick of the well meaning positivity at the start.Now I ignore it.Jane x

  • Brian, how was your start with HT and did it get worse over time? I've been on it six months now, and though I was very nervous to start, I haven't had to contend with the many side effects that were listed on the info booklet.  

  • That must be so hard. My great fear is ending up on chemo. You focus on each day until the cycle is over is that right?  Is it a rotten day and then the knowledge that tomorrow will be rotten too, but eventually the chemo course will be over and you will return to (semi) normality. Sorry for the naive question. 

  • Good Morning  

    Right from the start of Hormone Therapy I had ED and loss of libido - then things settled down and it was about six months in the hot flushes started, I grew a fine paid of "moobs", I lost a lot of body hair and I had itchy skin. It took 18 months before the weight piled on and I have had fatigue throughout.

    I completed 3 years on HT this December and to be honest the side effects have just been a little issue in my day to day life - my full journey is available by clicking on my user name or avatar.

    I wish you well with your journey - happy to answer any questions.

    Best wishes - Brian.

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  • Hi Jane,

    im always aware that there are other members who are worse off than me or maybe not, I have stage 3 B colon cancer, I was on two chemo meds for 2 weeks and a week off then started again with infusions and chemo pills, I’m so pleased you didn’t have to go through chemo, I was told by my oncologist that it would help me by 10% , not a lot but it’s better than refusing it.

    The fighting cancer term, which I don’t personally agree with, in my opinion from the doctor who discovered my cancer to the surgeon that removed it to the chemo, they were doing the fighting, not me.

    Take care x