Incessant Thirst

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After I started on ipi/nivo in January I noticed I started drinking copious amounts of tea.  I was relieved there were no immediate side effects, the ones they warn you about; diarrhoea, sickness, itching, so I just thought it was a funny aside, hahaha.  A few weeks later I was finding my thirst incessant and I became inseparable from my water bottle(s).  I got so fed up with it!  Not so funny now, eh?!  Initially we believed it was due to the decline in my kidney function, but once the kidney returned to acceptable levels and my thirst didn’t return to normal, my patience ran out.  I was also getting fed up of my frequent visits to the loo, both the domestic and the “wild” variety. 

My first search for an answer was to diabetes insipidus but my oncologist was certain it wasn’t this.  Sjogren's syndrome had been on the radar when I first reported the excessive thirst too, but I didn’t have dry eyes or a mouth that felt dry either. 

The game changer came in June when I started having problems chewing (bread, cake, biscuits, cheese).  Bits of bread would end up stuck in my mouth and gums.    

Dry mouth is listed as a possible side effect of immunotherapy drugs so I suggested this to my oncologist as a driver for my thirst.  “Good shout, try eating pineapple and Bassett’s jelly babies” he said. Now, I like my oncologist, a lot.  He’s a great listener, he knows when to shut-up, and he patiently accommodates all my questions.  But I felt this was the silliest thing he has ever said, a most unlikely remedy.  A bit unfair you might be thinking?  Having read multiple accounts on reliable internet sources about dry mouth, none of them mention pineapple as a potential relief.  I dutifully tried it out.  I ate a whole tin (400g) the next day and then snacked on it over the next two days. I tried small amounts and frequently. I tried sucking it.  I tried jelly babies but they hurt my teeth – another issue to deal with lol.   Nothing bought any noticeable change to my thirst. 

A few days later I was at my GP for a catch-up armed with the print-out of NICE recommended medications to relieve dry mouth and the personal recommendations from the Macmillan Head and Neck forum (thanks guys!).  To cut a long story short I have now tried:

(a) Salivix lozenges (£5 for 50)

(b) Glandosane (on prescription) mouth spray.  Lemon flavour. 

(c) Oralieve moisturising mouth gel (£8 for 50ml).  Too sweet.

(d) Xylimelts (OraCoat) 25+p each but you can only buy them in bulk in £10 increments.  Natural flavour.  A front runner.  These really do seem to work. 

(e) BioXtra Mild Mouthwash for dry mouth (£7.85 for 250ml, special order from my local pharmacy)

Whilst it does feel like there is some improvement, the core problem remains. Now I sometimes experience dry lips, an occasional sticky mouth, and talking will invoke thirst too.  I still can’t chew dry food easily.  I don’t understand why the symptom is a dry mouth for everyone else, but my experience is constant thirst.  Very weird!  Perhaps my brain is wired differently to everyone else.  Upside down

I was at the dentist and she confirmed the dry mouth diagnosis.  Relief!  In her experience, people didn’t find the remedies any good for a prolonged period (>5 mins).  You’ve got to love a bit of pragmatic advice, even on hearsay.  It looks like I will need to learn to adapt to it.  The issue is that insufficient saliva impacts your first line of defence for oral health meaning I’m more at risk of tooth decay and gum disease.   Since this sh1tshow started, I’ve gained a personal relationship with my GP and my oncologists and I’m in no rush to add a dentist to this list.  Sob  So, what to do?!

Some of the recommendations for dealing with this are pretty cr@p and unrealistic, like change your diet, and don’t drink caffeine and alcohol.  Bollocks to that. Wine glass  But I have found some reasonable adjustments:

1/ Upped my oral health regime – my teeth have never felt so loved.  Heart

2/ Swapped my orange squash hydration regime with water.  Because I’m drinking all the time, the dentist advises the constant sugar in contact with my teeth heightens the risk and therefore water is the hydration of choice.  Hmmmmmm. . . . We’ll see how I get on with this.

3/ Mental preparation and anticipation for eating cake and bread.  I found myself sucking my vanilla cake and trying different chewing techniques moving the food around my mouth desperately seeking a successful chew lol. 

I am continuing with the dry mouth relievers.  I’m trying to find out the best one(s) for me. 

To continue my little humorous “game” with oncology and my cancer, I was 1-2 down, but as the “dry mouth” was my suggestion, I now draw level at 2-2.  GET IN!!

In conclusion, it’s another example of the impact of cancer and immunotherapy drugs. 

Anonymous
  • Hoping the immunotherapy doesn’t leave water tasting foul for you. I have found each of my cycles of EC has taken away my taste for a little longer each time, with the last round making plain water taste foul. I am not usually a fan of cordials but found myself resorting to putting a dash of elderflower cordial in it for a few days at a time. Not great for the teeth. I saw my hygienist just before surgery and have booked in again for late August. This has to be carefully booked between Zoledronic acid infusions to reduce the risk of jaw necrosis. I have been seeing a hygienist in London as my local ones keep leaving and of course my appointment falls on the day in the middle of the 2 August train strikes and I will need to go up by train. This cancer lark is definitely a juggling act. Hoping you are keeping ok otherwise.

  • Yeah, I don't think immunotherapy impacts taste, although I did have a period when cheese tasted bleugh  and I couldn't face coffee, salad dressing and strong tea and that was without tasting it.  We attributed it all to the impaired kidney function.  Back to "normal" apart from the tea - drinking loose tea now because tea bags are still too strong!  Murphy's Law with the trains grrrr

  • Hi Mumm, thank you for directing me towards your blog. Very interesting. You mentioned Alcohol, and it is one of our concerns - Val and I usually pop out on Friday and Saturday. She would normally have two regular glasses of white wine, not the mega size, has anyone told you not to drink alcohol?

  • No one has advised me to stop drinking.  I've had no conversations with oncology about it.