Losing friends, support and not fitting in

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Last year I met up with another woman nearby who also has secondary breast cancer. This was really nice for me as she was nearer to my age, we both have children and found lots of common ground. We met a few times for coffee and a chat and at last I felt I had someone to confide in who really understood me.  Well in January she got some bad news on a scan and told me she was going on chemo again but wouldnt tell me about her scan. I sent her some flowers to cheer her up and let her know I am here for her. Everytime I try to arrange to meet she wont and I feel she has really backed away from me. One of my clients at work also has SBC and they have been in contact and have arranged to go for lunch?? A similar thing happened early last year when a woman I met on a younger womens forum stopped contacting me when her diagnosis worsened and whenever I instigated contact I got no reply but I know she was in contact with others.  It feels like slowly and surely the little bit of support I have managed to scrape together has faded away and I have no one to talk to.  I dont really have any friends, no one ever calls or visits. After Christmas I made a conscious effort to try and make more time for my friends and got in touch with loads of people about going out for dinner or drinks but its all ignored.  Or they say they will and when I chase it up nothing happens so I have just given up trying. I feel really lonely. I have no BC friends to talk to about the illness and no 'normal' friends to talk about everyday stuff!!

A couple of months ago I got an email about a secondary breast cancer workshop for younger women which I thought would be perfect for me to gain support and meet other women in my position. So I contacted Breast Cancer Care to secure my place. She asked me questions about my DX and family etc but then told me she wanted to get a nurse to contact me as there would be women further along than me and wanted to make sure I could deal with that?? I felt a bit deflated by this but waited for the nurse to call.  A couple of days later the nurse called me and asked me loads of questions about how I came to be diagnosed from my primary to now.  It seemed like she was questioning my secondary diagnosis as if I had misunderstood what I had been told in 2009 because none of my organs were affected. She asked me ''what do you believe you were told in 2009?'' and this really threw me and I felt like crying. I told her about the scans I had and the surgery to remove the tumor in my neck and that I have extensive lymph node involvement all over my body and that my oncologist said it wasnt curable. I knew I didnt get that bit wrong?? Who would? Anyway it felt to me that because I wasnt physically feeling ill I had no place on the course and that she was implying it wasnt true secondaries. Eventually she said she had come across a few women in my position and that I could go if I wanted to. Its next week but they havent sent me the information so I dont think I will be going afterall.  It just made me feel like I dont fit in anywhere...I know I am not 'ill' or having chemo etc but my outcome is the same as anyone else and I need the same support. I am grateful things are going so well I really am and on the whole I can deal with all this stuff but the way things are going I wont have anyone to turn to when things get bad and why should things have to be bad before there is any support??

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Oh Chrissi, I don't know what to say to make you feel better about yourself.  I know that you understand that perhaps the BC friends you made pulled away rather than scaring you or pulling you down - but I think as we are all adults, you should have been given the choice of whether you felt you could handle it and give support to them or not.

    It isn't anything to do with you babe, anyone who even slightly knows you - through this site or real life - knows what a top girl you are.

    It's such a shame that you don't fit neatly into a category of what a SBC patient should be - I mean, how dare you be different ;)

    You will always have your Mac friends, we may be a ragbag tangled group of misfits, but we know and love you for who you are and will support you the best way we can when needed.  Cold comfort right now I guess but here we are.

    Love & Strength, Debs xx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Hi Chrissi

    Sorry you are having such a confusing time. Whilst I can understand that patients struggle with other patients dx I can't understand a Nurse questioning your ability to cope with the situation Surely you wouldn't be requesting to go if you were unable to deal with it.

    I had Breast Cancer last year and right from my first chemo I came into contact with women at various stages of this disease, many of whom I am still in contact with though my chemo is now finished. Recently I met a lady there who I get on very well with, have met up with her away from the unit as she lives very close to me but she hates the unit, she hates being around the ladies who have secondaries. I think it scares her. But whilst we're all different, surely the Nurses should credit you with the common sense to know yourself?

    I'm sorry you feel that people are pulling away from you, perhaps in some misguided way they feel they are protecting you. I can appreciate it leaves you out on a limb and feeling like you have no-one to talk to who understands your situation. I feel the Nursing Staff you have come into contact with leave a lot to be desired, your dx is your dx wether you're physically ill now or not.

    I know our circumstances are not the same but if you ever fancy a natter I'm here

    Love and hugs

    Max xxx

  • I've made friends with other BC patients and we've met up for lunch. One, once her prognosis worsened, didn't want to keep contact despite my efforts to support her in any way.Whilst not wanting to sound condescending, I likened it to animals wanting to withdraw to their lairs to lick their wounds - she needed privacy.

    I suppose we all deal with our diagnosis in our own way. We understand where you're coming from and are always listening any time you need.

    Cyber hugs

    KateG

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Hi Chrissie,

                  First, let me say it is brilliant that you are feeling well and people should appreciate that . I realise that people cope with cancer in different ways, but it is hard to understand this type of reaction and the nurse's attitude also leaves a lot to be desired. Friends also react in different ways as I know well. Some say they will call or visit but never do and others don't bother to say anything. Luckily, I have a few who have stayed supportive since day 1 and they more than make up for the rest. I even had one "friend" who , when she eventually met up with me, thought I looked too well and seemed to imply that I was exaggerating the extent of my illness!

           Please don't let these negative reactions put you off finding the support you need. Enjoy feeling well and your lovely family and remember that we are here for you, always.

             Take care,

              Love and hugs,

                  lizzie xx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    hi hun havent got bc but i have liver mets but we are all in the same boat vulnerable and need all the support we can get so here i am if you need a moan a chat a good laugh whatever so chin up positive thoughts ive lost loads of friends since ive been diagnosed thought it was me until everyone else told me the same happened wth them as well and now i dont bother their loss of a good mate thats what i say so look onwards and upwards girl

    love and hugs jen xxx