Hi,
I’m new to the forum so please bear with me if I’m a bit all over the place.
I’m 67 and was diagnosed with PC in September 2017…..Gleeson 3+3 low grade with a PSA of 4,I went on Active Surveillance with PSA tests every 6 months & biopsies every 2, my PSA levels fluctuated up and down over the years but started to increase in 22/23, July last year (24) I had a template biopsy and my PSA had risen to19, I was called into the hospital and advised my Gleeson had now changed ( 4+3 ) and that a procedure was advised as there was a suggestion from my MRI that there was a small “Cribiform” ? pattern within my prostate and that it was very large at 122cc I was told that the cancer was still within my my prostate but the time to act was now.
After consideration I went for DaVinci surgery on October 19th 2024, this was, according to my surgeon a complete success and there were negative margins from Histopathology report.
After the Catheter was removed after 2 weeks I began my pelvic floor exercises 4 times a day, I worked hard and have now achieved full continence at night and 1 Tena Level 2 pad per day, the ED is work in progress with a Soma 2 pump but again things are slowly improving in that department.
Now to the crux of it…on my follow up consultation with my surgeon after 8 weeks I was told my PSA was 8.5!… no where near where it should be, I had a further PSA test 1 week after that and that came back at 9!….I was then referred to an Oncologist in the private sector who told me various scenarios and referred me for a PMSA scan and a further MRI, as advised I had a further PSA test in the private sector 3 weeks ago which came back at 0.6!!… obviously I was encouraged to say the least by that but knew I would still have to have some form of treatment as it was still high, imagine my surprise when last week I had another PSA test with my GP that came back at back at 8.2.
I have a follow up consultation on the 31st to discuss everything and to learn the results of the PSMA, MRI and these conflicting blood test results, I’m struggling to get my head around what’s going on with the bloods, I have seen 2 surgeons and 1 Oncologist who have just said “ There’s something strange going on and we’re not sure what it is”….hopefully the PMSA will tell me and I’m expecting the worse.
I'm sorry it’s been a bit of a monologue, but as we all are with this disease I’m frightened and I don’t know which way is up.
Thanks, I hope someone can help me understand things.
Hi RP6,
Your pathology from surgery was pT3b which your surgeon characterized as completely excised and a complete success. pT3b is stage 3 involving the seminal vesicles.
It is very disturbing to me that he said nothing to prepare you for the likelihood of further treatment. That was very unfair to you. Patients with pT3b have a high risk of recurrence.
Your surgeon's work is done. Going forward your Oncologist should have the knowledge and the tools to get you through this. With the latest advances you may still be on a curative pathway.
Hopefully your scans will give definitive information on where to proceed from here. You are likely to have radiation and a period of hormone therapy in your near future.
Pelvic radiation can affect continence after a prostatectomy. If you are not fully continent, radiation often makes it worse. If you are fully continent, most men stay that way after radiation.
If it is determined that you need radiation, hormone theropy can be started so you can have a few more months to become fully continent before starting radiation.
It is often stated here that this decision phase is the hardest, most stressful part of our journeys. This will get better for you.
I wish you good luck.
Hi Stampede,
Many thanks for that, my Oncologist did talk about HT and poss RT at my first meeting he seemed to think it would not be in the prostate bed as it was a negative excision but didn’t rule anything out, I’m completely dry at night and only leak about 4 mil a day at the moment so I’m hoping I’ll be completely dry in a month or two fingers crossed.
D-Day on the 31st when he should have all the test results/scans etc and I know what I’m doing.
Many thanks once again Stampede.
RP6
Hi there,
I hope everything goes well for you Cip8910.
very best wishes
RP6
Thank you,
When I was first diagnosed it did put the fear of God into me but because it was the lowest possible grade I soon accepted it and got on with my life, I was 60, fit and very active, 2021 when my wife was diagnosed and we fought the thing I started to become more conscious of my own condition and it really hit me when I was told I needed a procedure that’s when my mind started to go, anyway we fought the monster once as a team and got a result so we go again as a team.
All the very best & thanks once again.
RP6
A lovely person on here pointed me in your direction. I am following your story with baited breath and wish you well. Your ‘journey’ closely matches ours and we’re only days behind you.
My husband (52) and I (48) were diagnosed with cancer a week apart last April, breast cancer for me (treatment finished in current remission) and prostate for him. He had radical prostatectomy non nerve sparing surgery via davincii on 19th December and first PSA 4 days ago was 2.8 so heading for pet scan (5 week wait here) to see what’s going on. Going out of our minds initially but more positive after reading others experiences on here. He had lymph dissection at the time and 2 of 16 were positive. Margins weren’t fully clear on one side of removed prostate where it meets bladder. They’re talking about HT and salvage RT so I’m wishing you the very best and hope you don’t mind me jumping on in here so we’re armed with as many possibilities and information that we can find.
Our stories are not a complete match but very close. I’m hoping you and your wife are doing well and staying positive and keeping on the curative path.
Hi MaryDoll,
No problem at all in joining in and I’m sorry to hear that you you and your husband have joined the club no one wants to be in but great news that you like my wife are in remission from the beast, long may that continue.
I had my Oncologist meeting on Friday and have been told the following.
PSA Level is stable at 7.4 ( After 4 more tests with GP and Hospital & a Superdrug test at £75 which was spot on)
The results of my PSMA-PET Scan were……(Oncologist words) spot on my bottom left rib…..1 spot on the back of my left hip bone and 2/3 spots in some lymph nodes at the back of my abdomen…..interestingly the MRI Scan did not show the one on my hip bone…go figure?
I was shown all the images and he told me there was non anywhere else or in any major organs, so that was good news…I hope!
The Plan:
I was told that in these circumstances that HT was the starting point for me and I was given all the different HT options available to me, after talking it over I have decided to go onto Relugolix, ( didn’t fancy injections) it’s a 1 a day tablet taken at home after the first day when you take 3 of them, I as told I would be on them for approx 6 months ( If I can handle them) then reviewed with the objective being that once the little swines are shrunk and put to sleep we nail them with targeted RT to kill them…..Fingers crossed.
My Oncologist told me that we are on “ A curative pathway” I hope he is right.
I hope that your husband has a positive outcome to his scans and I wish you all the very best on your journey…and please let me know how things progress…as you say it is a battle and the mental side of things never go away.
I am glad you have a plan, and more importantly that your treatment is going to be with curative intent. Please keep us updated on how you get on with the Relugolix as it is a newly approved hormone therapy in the UK.
My Oncologist told me that we are on “ A curative pathway”
Now that is the best news you can get on this journey. Please do keep us updated and I wish you well with your treatment plan.
Best wishes - Brian.
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Hi there,
I hope you are both keeping well and I will definitely keep you all updated with the Relugolix progress.
Very Best
RP6
Thank you Brian,
I will keep posting as to progress and thank you…… I would be interested if anyone has already experienced Relugolix treatment.
Very Best
RP6
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