Lung cancer with brain mets

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Hi

I am not from the UK, I am in Canada so I hope its ok I am posting here...but I am really not getting answers on some of the US forums and the Canadian ones are even worse.  Not many people posting/responding.

My dad was diagnosed May 2018 with a brain tumor...he was feeling very off for a few weeks, trouble walking, speaking, blurred vision, massive headaches....he finally went to the ER and after testing discovered he had a brain tumor..was scheduled asap for brain surgery..after the surgery the dr said it was a secondary tumor so we would have to wait to for pathology results....my dad is 69, had testicular cancer in the 80's and is in monitoring stage for prostate cancer.....he is a smoker so it was no shock when the results came back and they said he had nsclc adenocarcinoma.  He had chemo done and late Dec/Jan he was having very bad days..kept falling, extreme fatigue and just not well...his dr orderd a CT and MRI....so the chemo didn't work and it was spreading in the lung and he has many brain mets and it had spread to the lining of the brain.  We met with the brain oncologist and he suggested WBRT so my dad had 10 days of that.  I think that finished about 2-3 weeks ago....lately he has days of extreme exhaustion...like he is only awake for about an hour in total in a 24 hr period...walking and talking is bad and limited.  Some days are much better than others...so I wonder is that the cancer or the radiation???

2 weeks ago Frday, he collapsed and couldn't get up..he was conscious but physically couldn't stand up so my mother called the oncologist and they advised her to call an ambulance...he had a fever so they did an xray and it showed pneumonia..they couldn't tell how bad because of the lung cancer...they sent him home with antibiotics.  The ER dr did tell my mom that they were going to call outreach to come out....well we didn't know what that was so my mom waited for the call which was on Tuesday and a team of a dr, nurse and someone else (cant remember) came over.  They were from a Hospice and are the outreach team.  My dad's next scheduled oncologist appointment was the following day....so they were talking to my mom and my mom said, oh we are seeing the oncologist tomorrow and the dr from hospice said there is no point..we are here to take care of him now...my mother didn't ask why hospice was called in or who made that decision...so the only thing I can think of is they saw the chest xray and maybe decided no more treatment can be done...maybe its all over the lungs now...I don't know what happened but I am assuming they only call hospice in based on facts..I would assume a report would have gone out to his oncologist who is out of that hospital...but my mom didn't ask why or who....In her mind I guess she figurd well if they said that's what they are doing, than that's it.

So the nurse comes once a week to assess my dad and will come more as needed...other than his bad days where he has a lot of trouble walking and is beyond tired, he seems ok.  My mom said his breathing is getting worse but isn't that bad..and the nurse agrees...she said eventually he will probably need oxygen.  My dad was going to discuss immunotherapy at his next appointment so I guess that isn't happening.  The dr had said back in January without trying immunotherapy you are looking at about 3-4 months.  Well that was 2nd week of January.

Does anyone here have lung cancer with brain mets or can offer advice.  I don't know what will end up killing him, lung or brain mets?  It seems like the brain mets will eventually make him bedridden.  Can anyone offer what the end will look like?  bedridden? pain?  He says he is not in any pain.  He also wants to stay home til the end if possible.

This has been hard on everyone in my family.  I cannot even imagine what my dad is going through.  His birthday is March 19..Hoping he makes it to see his 70th.

thanks for any input

Michelle

  • Hi Michelle.

    So very sorry that you find yourself on here.

    I doubt I can help much as my cancer is SCLC with no spread; however this will help bump your post back onto the front page and may help you to get a response from someone who has experience of this.

    My only advice is for you to raise your concerns/questions with the hospice and/or your Dad's Oncologist.

    Kegsy x

    "If you are going through hell, keep going" ; Sir Winston Churchill
    " Cancer may take my life; however it will not become my life" Kegsy August 2011
  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to Kegsy

    Hi Michelle, 

    I'm sorry you've not had much response. I only check in to the forums every now and again. How is your Dad now? My Dad also had nsclc which eventually led to brain mets. 

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    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    Hi

    He is not doing well.  Almost bedridden ... he is getting very frustrated because he doesnt like to depend on us for help but we need to help him with everything.

    hes still eating and drinking a bit and we want to keep him home as long as possible but it’s vwry hard to take on a nurses role when we aren’t nurses.  We do have people coming by but have to provide care when they are not here. I don’t mind but I know my dad hates it... it’s just very sad watching someone get weaker.

    thanks for the responses

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to FormerMember

    It's incredibly sad and very difficult for both the person with the cancer and their family members. I wish you all strength to keep going and get through what lies ahead.

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    My mum was diagnosed with lung cancer with brain mets in may 2018, if it hadn’t been for the 2 brain mets they found, they wouldn’t have found the lung tumour, she had stereotactic radiotherapy on them in June 2018 and surgery to remove her lung in aug 18 and things seemed to be going well until another met came up in Dec 18, more stereo on the new one but an old one had regrown so they worked on that as well in jan 2019, unfortunately as of today the original met has regrown again and is significantly bigger so no more stereo and a wait and see approach, her consultant has said they will monitor but isn’t offering any other options so I’m unsure how long it will be before we see a decline, it’s a real kick in the teeth but I guess you take each day as it comes, not much help I know just wanted you to know that you aren’t alone in the world as it seems difficult to find other people with brain mets due to lung cancer, Im hoping there’s something else they can do but it will be moms decision as to what she wants, quality vs quantity, difficult all round, i hope this post finds you in a better place 

    Kim x

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    My mum was diagnosed with lung cancer with brain mets in may 2018, if it hadn’t been for the 2 brain mets they found, they wouldn’t have found the lung tumour, she had stereotactic radiotherapy on them in June 2018 and surgery to remove her lung in aug 18 and things seemed to be going well until another met came up in Dec 18, more stereo on the new one but an old one had regrown so they worked on that as well in jan 2019, unfortunately as of today the original met has regrown again and is significantly bigger so no more stereo and a wait and see approach, her consultant has said they will monitor but isn’t offering any other options so I’m unsure how long it will be before we see a decline, it’s a real kick in the teeth but I guess you take each day as it comes, not much help I know just wanted you to know that you aren’t alone in the world as it seems difficult to find other people with brain mets due to lung cancer, Im hoping there’s something else they can do but it will be moms decision as to what she wants, quality vs quantity, difficult all round, i hope this post finds you in a better place 

    Kim x