Hi All
I am new here and hoping for some more information, also whilst awaiting diagnoses I have been doing a lot of googling, and found so little on my type. Especially in my age group. Most posts about mine seem to be on behalf of older relatives. Apparently it's rare, and rare as hens teeth in my age group. (34 year old female). So by sharing my story here I hope to raise awareness and should anybody find themselves where I am now, they can google for some information.
I just got diagnosed yesterday (Maundy Thursday).
I also want to raise awareness to get checked, if it's not normal for you, please do not dismiss it as I did and leave it and just think it's part of getting older.
I should start by saying I am slightly more complicated as I also have an autoimmune disorder called hidradenitis suppurativa (HS I call it as spelling and saying it is a mission). This is pretty harmless, extremely painful and embarrassing condition that causes abscesses in sweat gland areas. It is not relevant to my story so do not get hung up on it, other than it helped my cancer hide behind it as I blamed this for some of the symptoms.
I noticed some stinging type sensations under my arm initially, this is not abnormal for me as I also get frequent cellulitis infections as part of my HS. It is my left axilla that is predominantly affected with the right rarely coming to the party. The stinging was on the right so I could not understand why I had no abscess, no bright red skin, no thickening. I dismissed it, it came and went intermittently I kept an eye but it never came to anything.
Around August 2017 I then noticed sleeping at night was uncomfortable to lie on my right side. This went on for a while at least a month or two and wasn't improving. I had gone numb where I was getting the stinging under my arm. Again I did not think too much of this as I had had numerous surgeries to drain abscesses and had noticed nerve damage/loss of sensation in the badly affected left so assumed it was that.
I had also been getting a lot of headaches, which I had mentioned to the doctor previously, they ran bloods and said I was low normal so put me on iron to boost me a little. This did stop the headaches.
Another thing I had noticed and was rather annoyed about is embarrassingly I did not link it and despite them saying always get checked and I didn't. My right breast had changed shape slightly. I felt like I looked a bit sagged, not being by any means are large chested woman I was most put out, but just thought ah that is what they mean about your 30s.
My other weird quirky symptom which again I didn't link is I suddenly started suffering from indigestion/belching which I had never ever had problems with in my life. I just got some indigestion remedies to try and help.
The most scary symptom for me in these couple of months was on and off 3 times the whole right side of my face went numb for a few minutes at a time. It felt just like I had had a dental local anaesthetic. Half my tongue felt thick and floppy my nose was numb down one side and my cheek. At this point I started to google and freaked myself out as it kept saying potentially MS for my symptoms. (just the numbness I didn't think to link the rest at this point). I had also noticed the numbness across my chest and at times down my arm in to my little finger and ring finger.
October 2017 I finally I went to my doctor about another one of my friendly abscesses and brought up the pain in my right chest/numbness across my chest and back of my arm and numbness of face. He suggested a trapped nerve. I was referred for an xray.
I had this the report said I had a very slight narrowing between two neck vertebra and a bone spur. Accepting this must be the cause I went to a chiro to resolve. My insurance would fund 4 sessions which I had and only felt mild benefits.
I went back to the GP and asked what to do for the best, there had been mention of an MRI but as the Chiro had mildly helped I went for physio which was unlimited on my insurance.
I had seven sessions in total, in the middle I had 3 sessions of acupuncture in one week and that really made me feel better I was getting more and more pain by now and so fed up as I had gone in October and it was now January/February. I thought finally I would be fixed, then we slowed back down to once a week and the pain was intolerable again.
The physio agreed he had done all he could and referred me back to my GP and pain specialist who would organise an MRI and maybe an injection to the nerve if needed.
I sore the pain man who was lovely, organised an MRI of my neck suspecting a protruding disc. February 2018 I went for my MRI so relieved I would finally be getting fixed. He said that a couple of my symptoms didn't fit that diagnosis but some people are wired differently, He also said that after six months a protruding disc should have healed itself by now, or very near to it.
It was a Wednesday and I was to meet with him the following Monday to discuss. Within half an hour of getting out of the MRI I had a text to ask me to go that evening to see him and bring someone with me. It was at that point my world came crashing down. I knew I was in for bad news and something serious had been found. I was very tearful at first but then went into a seriously calm slightly surreal state about it.
I went to see him as requested and he was gutted I could tell to tell me that the MRI of my neck had actually picked up a mass on the Apex of my lung. I now know that this is a Pancoast Tumor and that it ties exactly with my symptoms.
Also in hindsight looking at my MRI and comparing it to my Xray, it was there all along on my Xray and it was missed! It should have been found 4 months earlier. I am angry about that at times, but also realise being angry won't change it. It was missed and a four month earlier diagnosis could have made all the difference. I had read tumours double in size in four months. But it wasn't and it can't be changed.
He advised I would need to go for several more MRIs of my brachial plexus, thorasic inlut, my spine, chest and head ( I had also been getting a lot of headaches so they were now being ultra precautious). with contrast and a thorasic CT with contrast.
These showed the mass as suspicious and of about 9cm with enlarged lymph nodes.
I was then referred for lung function tests, blood tests a lung biopsy and a PET scan which I had to travel to the UK for was we have limited facilities in my small island.
The biopsy confirmed it was positive for cancer, I have Adenocarcinoma the most common type. The PET scan showed some other 'hot' areas areas for concern. So I need to have more tests, though the enlarged lymph nodes in other areas I think will all be due to my HS as the areas are both Axillas, my groin (which I have had an ultrasound on and need to have a biopsy on to be sure) and my bowels, which seem fine but need a polyp removed, so likely what the scan was finding.
Providing none of these other areas are affected I am a stage III B and they believe at least an N2 as the node in right side looks malignant, so does the node of my Trachea and they are questioning the left side node which would make it an N3.
If it's spread elsewhere I will be a stage 4. Here is a post to how the TNM stages are spilt over the different stages and how they categorise them. cancer relief lung cancer stages
They believe due to the multi layer node involvement it is inoperable, which I am a little relieved about as it's major lung removing surgery and potentially ribs too.
I will have to go back to England to see the Oncology specialist there hopefully within a week or two, by which all my other areas results will hopefully be in. But all being well it looks like I will receive Chemoradiation. I have been told it will be the highest dose they give. Which is where my questions come in please, how long for, how often? We do not have radiation facilities where I am from so again this would have to be done in the UK. I need to plan around this life/animals/work etc and do not relish being in a place for too long where non of my home comforts or friends/family are.
Sorry it was long, I wanted it to be as informative as possible for anybody else going through a pancoast diagnosis.
But please the main point of my post was, laying all those symptoms together it's obvious, but them appearing separately over several months and being such a rare lung cancer (only 5% of all) and usually affecting men in their 60/70s I am the hen's teeth diagnosis that you see people dismissing all over the internet when people google and panic that they have shoulder pain. Get checked, if it's not normal for you, just check it out!
hi Gina. glad your sorted re needles i know it can be a nightmare. mine were getting worse ( up to 4 goes ) but now seemed to have settled. unsure why?.
Good morning Gina
thats all sounds good. I’ve heard such good things happen with immunotherapy and I look forward to that in your story.
Personally I’m waiting for 2nd Scan result which I’m praying will be stable.
maybe a big problem for me is that I’ve taken on board perhaps too much the benefits of the change of diet etc and I’ve become obsessed with avoiding sugar wheat dairy etc. Not that there is anything wrong with cutting those things from your diet if you so wish but I joined the Chris Wark Square One programme. He’s a genuine chap who’s dedicated much of his life to encouraging ppl that nutrition is the key. Problem is I’ve lost so much weight and have totally lost my appetite! I think I need to review!!
good luck with your final chemo and good things to happen with the new treatment - much love xx
Hi all
Today has not gone to plan. Unfortunately i have had my first seizure without any warning signs. I was feeling a bit weak but it's been chemotherapy week and anaemic so to be expected. I lay on the sofa then all of a sudden i felt like my tongue was wanting to flip over and I felt panicked I was going to swallow it. I tried to put a finger in my mouth to prevent this but i lost control of my arms and think i scratched my forehead.
Last I looked at the clock it was half 11 and I felt like I been asleep and it was 12.15. As i started to wake up I noticed my cheek was sore as i looked down despite having a really small nick in my cheek there was a reasonable pool of blood in the floor (think i hit it on the corner of a magazine rack), and the blood was dry on my cheek which suggests I may have been out of it for a bit. I've also hit my tongue or bitten it.
I was due for the blood boster injection so I went ealier to oncology. They checked me over and so did a and e. They have started me on anti seizure medications and I have been sent to the hospice for a bit to keep a close eye on me over the weekend. All being well and I don't have another prolonged seizure ill be here, if not they will send me to hospital. Hoping now on medication that it will never happen again. It really shook me up and has been a very frightening experience especially as i live alone. It never quite goes faultlessly.
Hi Gina
What a bugger, so sorry to hear about your day, typical that you were on your own, couldn’t happen when you had visitors.
Im glad you’re in the hospice where people can keep their eye on you, I know you’ll be anxious now but try and relax, don’t work yourself up, there are people with you now. I’m hoping someone took you to the oncology appointment, please don’t say you made your own way there.
Well if you’re looking for something to do or someone to talk to we’re here.
Have you seen the chef today (don’t know what time you got there)
Keep in touch and take care
Oh dear lord Gina, that sounds just awful! It does sound like you may of bitten your tongue, and maybe some of the blood was from that. I hope these meds work their magic, but it sounds like you are in the right place for now. At least you know the food is good there.
I hope it’s a quiet restful weekend for you x
Hi Gina,
that sounds awful, you must have been very frightened. Thank goodness you were able to get checked quickly and that you are somewhere with people who can keep an eye on you for the next coupe of days. Its easier said than done but do try to relax while you can and not worry too much, as you say this is hopefully a one off and wont happen again.
Thinking of you , take care xxx
Hi Gina ,that must have been so Frightening for you.Im glad your in safe hands now.Try and rest. Take care x
Dear, dear Gina, that sounds so awful and very frightening. I'm glad you are in the hospice and not alone at home so you can be watched and well looked after. Hopefully the anti-seizure meds will kick in and keep you stable. We will all be thinking of you and wishing, praying, hoping, whatever it is we use, that you have a comfortable and calm weekend. x
Oh Gina - that sounds so awful - poor you.
Always more scary when you are on your own, I live alone so I understand how difficult it is.
You have been through so much hope the medicine helps.
Big hug xxxx cathy
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