They all said it was nothing!

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I’m new here and I think it’s nice to introduce myself. I’m 58 next month, never smoked, never drunk alcohol to excess and nothing for the last 6 months. Lost 4 stone in the last 6 months to be healthier.

I’ve been diagnosed with a squamous cell carcinoma of my tongue yesterday. It was a small unhealing ulcer which everyone told me was nothing - my GP, my dentist and even the max fax consultant said 99% certain it wasn’t suspicious. GP told me to put bongela on it! I don’t actually know how long it was there for before I got referred. Can you all hear the anger I’m experiencing at the moment!!!!! Anyway, biopsy two weeks ago and told yesterday the news, by myself as it was obviously nothing! MRI head and neck on Tuesday, waiting for CT of chest appointment, MDT on morning of 17th and my appointment on the afternoon for plan etc. All moving so very fast.

Anyway I’m going to have lots of questions I’m sure but at the moment I cannot fathom how a tiny ulcer which after the biopsy I can hardly see where it was can turn into this. My worry is that towards the back of my tongue is a sore area but with nothing much to see which has been present for quite a while. I can also feel a lump in my neck at angle of jaw but to the opposite side from the ulcer. My Consultant (different one from the one who told me it was nothing) says I’ll not need radiotherapy but as I told him I don’t believe anyone any more!

I’ve worked in the NHS all my life but for over 21 years now as a midwife. Looking already at options to release my pension and lump sum although I’ll still have to work part time due to my mortgage.

The macmillan nurse is ringing me today - apparently at my hospital they call everyone the day after diagnosis for immediate support. The max fax nurse giving me her card was what tipped me over the edge to tears. It became real that I was now a cancer patient. I’m hoping to write a diary and have ordered a nice notebook and coloured pens etc. So funny that stationery is my go to!

  • I remember a consultant telling me nicely to stop wasting his time having nasal cameras! He said there was nothing wrong with me. 
    I kept having a gruff voice. It was only when the lymph node swelled in my neck that they panicked. 
    Tonsil cancer. 

  • Hello SisterT 

    Sorry to see you here but a very warm welcome to our group. 
    unfortunately, we do seem to get ignored and dismissed. 
    I had to advocate for myself initially. Last year after finding a small lump in my neck that very quickly grew to 2cm, I requested an appointment with my GP explained my situation and was told I’d have to wait 3 weeks. I then took myself off to urgent care at my local hospital where thankfully a very good doctor immediately referred me to ENT for a scan and informed me he thought I had cancer, which I already suspected. 
    I wish you all the best on your journey. Please feel free to reach out anytime, we are a friendly bunch always ready to support each other. 
    sending a virtual hug. 

    Denise 

    T2N1M0 Left Tonsil and lymph node. 

  • Hi  

    welcome to our little community. So sorry you’ve been messed about like this. 

    a tiny ulcer which after the biopsy I can hardly see where it was can turn into this

    This is really good news. It means that it’s likely the cancer has been caught early despite the delay 

    We have another member who although not having the same  tortuous route is now in a similar position to you. 
    I’ll tag him and you might be able to do this virtually together 

      

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I BLOGGED MY TREATMENT 

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Hi there  ! Welcome to the community. While it's not technically a community any of us ever wanted to be a a part of, I know from personal recent experience that it's full of lovely, supportive people.

    As  says, I'm on a similar pathway to you. One hopefully encouraging thing I can say (with the usual caveats that this doesn't constitute medical advice, blah blah) is that my alleged ulcer was about 1.5cm across when my consultant first saw it... and thankfully flagged it as cancer straight away.

    So why should this encourage you? Because at my scan results meeting two days back, the consultant said this thing is "about as early as they get". Which hopefully means your rogue ulcer is at LEAST as early and therefore very treatable without radiotherapy. 

    I'm sorry you're feeling messed about by folk. I mainly feel angry at myself for not getting checked out sooner, but I just thought this was sharp teeth causing an ulcer. And I guess it was... until the cells started to turn...

  • Hi SisterT, welcome to the group. You are in the loop now so as you can see things have got moving very quickly, which is really good. You will no doubt have lots of questions, and you can ask as many as you want on here, someone will always answer if they can. Be assured that these cancers are curable and the treatment does give very high rates of cure. 

    Ray.

  • I’m hoping to write a diary and have ordered a nice notebook and coloured pens etc. So funny that stationery is my go to!

    That's a good thing...a few of us wrote blogs during RT. It was something we could control and gave us somewhere to talk to ourselves.

    My neighbour, in her eighties had a small SCC on her tongue. It was simply excised with no further treatment and she is still digging the garden with her husband five plus years later

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I BLOGGED MY TREATMENT 

    Macmillan Support Line -  0808 808 00 00 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Hello SisterT and welcome from me, too.

    You've come to a great place for support and advice which you'll get in spades.

    I'm sorry you've been fobbed off but the ball's rolling now and I hope you've found encouragement from other posters, especially scaredbrightonguy as he's in very similar position to yourself.

    The pad and pens are a smashing idea - write down things, especially if you start to feel the anger raising its head, and get it out of your system via the stationary.

    We're all here if you need us and you can find me in the Awake and up all night forum if you're struggling to sleep.  I'm nocturnal (I was a badger in a previous life I've decided) so you'll always have someone to talk to.

    Take good care and hugs.

    Gill xx 

  • Hi SisterT and a warm welcome from me.

    I was lucky that my presentation was taken seriously from the first instance.  I have a very unusual journey, but I remember being told after one biopsy that the tumour was the size of a grain of rice.  I went many years without chemo/radiotherapy, just surgery, but eventually a tumour presented itself once again (much larger and I did not know it was there at the time) and the option at that time was CRT. 

    If they can get good margins on the tumour through surgery and you don't need CRT then that is positive news.  Surgery is difficult and has its own side effects but having experienced both it is easier than CRT insomuch that recovery is quicker.  Having said that, I and many others are living a  very good life post treatment and there is every reason to expect that you will.

    Peter
    See my profile for more details of my convoluted journey
  • Hi Sister T welcome from me I’m 7 years post chemo radiotherapy for HPV driven tonsil,cancer with 7 lymoh nides. Yiuve found us so stick with us we’re a friendly bunch always ready to help,out. Yes the shock of being told you now have a dedicated cancer nurse brings everything to a crescendo. It’s ok to rant it’s ok to cry we don’t judge we’ve all been there. 
    I too love a good but if stationary. I did my blog link below as it was my means if control. I couldn’t control what was happening to me but the blog I had complete control over. 
    we look forward to reading your story You can also uodate yiur profile in here by clicking your name, that can become a diary as well. 

    Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz 

    My blog is www.radioactiveraz.wordpress.com  HPV 16+ tonsil cancer Now  6 years  post treatment. 35 radiotherapy 2 chemo T2N2NM.Happily getting on with living always happy to help

    2 videos I’ve been involved with raising awareness of HNC and HPV cancers 

    https://www.instagram.com/merckhealthcare/reel/DBs8Y0niJ8N/

  • Hi SisterT.  Welcome from me too. It is a real shock to be diagnosed with cancer when you have been so healthy. I was the same as you, never smoked, did not drink. ate healthily, was reasonably fit with a normal BMI. I had a small ulcer on my gum which turned out to be jaw cancer. Fortunately for me my vigilant dentist picked it up. That is good news that you have been told that you will not need radiotherapy. That means that they are confident that they will be able to remove all the cancer with good margins. You will get great advice from lived experience on this forum. It has helped me so much and I don't feel alone with my challenges.

    I am living a great life still and once you get through this you will too.

    Sending best wishes

    Lyn

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