Brother had laryngeal cancer

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Hello, 

I’m new here. My brother was diagnosed with laryngeal cancer in August. He was not far into treatment when scans showed that the tumours, which were limiting his speech, were not responding to chemo and causing blockage in his airways.  In late October, he needed an emergency tracheostomy. He’s not able to speak at all now  and it appears that his hearing is also affected. Communication is really challenging. The doctors decided not to continue chemotherapy , but instead gave him one radiotherapy treatment and released him into palliative care. After a few weeks at home without any health visitors,  he had to go back to hospital due to breathing problems. They detected an infection and started antibiotics. Over Christmas, care in the hospital was very stretched. His basic needs seemed to be overlooked abd he got further dehydrated- is still in hospital- now with sepsis, UTI and AKI.  He is very disoriented- not making much sense (we communicate a bit through writing) and generally distressed and depressed and sometimes seems to not understand why he has a tracheostomy and wants to pull it out.. His wife is the first point of contact, but seems to get very inconsistent information- neither of us fully understand what is going on and my brother seems totally in the dark- confused and agitated much if the time. I am doing my best to support them both but live 4 hours away and can’t be there all the time. But it feels awful to leave them to come home- I feel so sad and helpless. I feel like we aren’t accessing the information we need, or navigating the system effectively. We know that the nurses are stretched but basic care seems to be overlooked. 

thanks for listening. 

  • Hi Amy,

    I’m sending you much love and support Amy.  My husband has stage 4 prostate cancer with bone and lung mets. The hospitals are as you say very stretched… you are doing your best in very difficult times and circumstances… I got my husband home only to get dr out on Christmas Day and two other GP call outs for pain management. Now well connected with District Nurses 24/7 if needed and hospice nurse amazing. 
    I still think your brother is better in hospital as his needs are extensive. I’m a retired nurse and so I have experience with this but it’s still very very lonely and stressful at home. All we want is peace for them and pain management. 
    distress and agitation should be treated too with sedation or pain control but you might have to ask for that and the input of a hospital palliative care specialist nurse. That would be my recommendation for your sister in law to push to see the people who can make him comfortable.

    wishing you all much peace and comfort at this time.

    Louli xx

  • Hi Amy, It all sounds so awful. I guess your  brother isn't well well enough to be discharged into hospice care where he will be more comfortable?

    You could approach PALS as well https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/hospitals/what-is-pals-patient-advice-and-liaison-service/

    Dani 

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  • Hi Amy as the others have said it’s not good enough. Try approaching p a l s. Plus did your brother have an appointed cancer nurse at diagnosis? Often they are a good point of contact. 
    Had hospice care bern mentioned if he’s well enough to be moved as the teams there are possibly better equipped. 
    Hazel xx

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  • Thank you so much, your perspective is really reassuring. I think he is sedated now, after a bad patch last night (he pulled out his tracheotomy). I have heard that his bloods are better, too. Still not clear what is causing him so much confusion. It’s as if he doesn’t understand why he has the trachey. But I agree that the district team and hospice nurse will be a positive change once he is out. 

    I wish you and your husband a pain free new year. 

  • Hello- thank you- no, he’s not had a cancer nurse as far as I know. I will look into that and into PALS. 

    wishing you a radiant new year Wink

  • Having seen it happen, I believe dehydration and UTIs can both cause confusion. Is the UTI under control now? Is he getting enough hydration? 
    Sound advice above though. Push through with getting info and see if he can be moved into hospice care.
    Take care of yourself too.

  • Thank you- I think the antibiotics are doing their work and hydration is now ample. Yes- we were told that confusion is associated with lots that’s happening for him, infections and medications alike. We hope he will be discharged soon. I think that having him home, in care of the district and hospice nurses, will be the best. 

  • I think that having him home, in care of the district and hospice nurses, will be the best. 

    I really hope he is home soon. Hugs

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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  • I hope he is home soon and getting the best palliative care.
    Wishing some peace for you, your brother and your sister-in-law.
    Hugs

  • PALS are a good way to get questions answered and quickly.  Write a letter to them they are very good at getting back to you.

    Wising you all some peace and rest.    Pauline   x