Bad patch

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Hello everyone, I'm a bit worried about how I'm feeling. I'm going to speak to my Macmillan nurse soon, but I appreciate any thoughts or experience you might have.

I've had a cold for 3 weeks and my nose is blocked, so I'm mouth breathing and waking up a lot through the night with a very dry mouth, despite my efforts. Also I'm in week 10 of recovery and still losing weight as I can't eat properly. I've lost 11kg/24lbs since the end of July when I started chemoradiation. It's not due to pain, I almost have a fear of eating the wrong food and making myself worse. I eat one small meal of proper food daily, then rely on my Ensure drinks, but I hardly ever make the 2500 calories I should. I have no appetite. My post treatment scan is due in the next couple of weeks, so that's weighing on me and I'm very low and worried. I'm feeling weak and I can't motivate myself to do anything, although I do manage a 30 minute dog walk daily. I think it's because recovery is hard and it's gone on so long. I guess you all have had experience of this. 

Probably this is pretty normal and I just have to deal with it, but it helps to share. Thanks,

Beth

  • Hi Beepa. 
    Try some high calorie high protein smoothies ( there are masses of recipes on the Net) 

    Try eating little and often, even if it’s every hour.  

    I almost have a fear of eating the wrong food and making myself worse

    Can you elaborate? What sort of food do you think might make it worse? 
    As for the cold, it’s likely it’s hanging on because your nutrition isn’t right. Have you tried steaming over something like olbas oil or even used a decongestant nasal spray? 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

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  • There are all sorts going on in our heads after we finish treatment. The wrap around care has gone and we are left floundering for a while. 
    Have a read of Peter Harvey’s essay on recovering from cancer. It helped me understand how I felt afterwards. It might help you 

    https://workingwithcancer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/After-the-treatment-finishes-then-what.pdf

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I wrote a blog about my cancer. just click on the link below 

    https://todaymycoffeetasteslikechristmasincostarica.com 

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  • Hi Dani, thanks for replying. I haven't tried smoothies, I'll look up some recipes. I haven't been eating fruit, veg or salad much, and I guess the drinks aren't enough to give all the vitamins we need.

    I suppose it's silly re the food, but white bread, processed meats, tinned soups stuff like that. Not what I ate before, but they seem all that appeals at the moment. I guess I'll just eat what appeals to me until I get my head straight. 

    I've been steaming and irrigating since my nasal surgery as my nose is always a bit blocked. It doesn't work any more, nor does a nasal decongestant, unfortunately. It's having to breathe through my mouth that causes the problems. 

    I have read that essay, but I think it's time to re-read it.

  • Hi Beth, it's good you are going to have a chat with the Macmillan nurse i sure that will be very helpful. You are still early in your recovery really, and you body has a lot of healing to do, which takes quite a good while, you will get there.

    Ray.

  • Thanks Ray, I just feel like I've had enough and it's hard to get my positivity back. But of course you're right. I need to stop stressing about every little niggle and just keep going.

  • I suppose it's silly re the food, but white bread, processed meats, tinned soups stuff like that. Not what I ate before, but they seem all that appeals at the moment. I guess I'll just eat what appeals to me until I get my head straight. 

    Honestly they won’t do you any harm in the short term. 

    I've been steaming and irrigating since my nasal surgery as my nose is always a bit blocked. It doesn't work any more, nor does a nasal decongestant, unfortunately. It's having to breathe through my mouth that causes the problems. 

    Be sure to make heavy weather of this at your next review. It’s could easily be scarring after the treatment. 
    Hang in there and hugs 

    Dani 

    Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019

    I wrote a blog about my cancer. just click on the link below 

    https://todaymycoffeetasteslikechristmasincostarica.com 

    Macmillan Support Line - 0808 808 00 00, 7 days a week between 8am-8pm

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  • Hi Beth

    I finished chemoradio in June 2023 ...T2N1M0 HPV16+ tonsil cancer....Iost 16 kgs in 3 weeks during CRT....ended up in hospital for 12 days to stabilise my weight...my PEG tube feed was changed from Ensure to Jevity which helped massively...started eating small portions in August 2023 then  gradually built up to full meals around late September ...post clear PET/CT scans in Sept 2023 the PEG tube was removed and my recovery quickened, healthy BMI, started swimming again, played some golf, went on a sunshine break with my wife...we all suffer from recovery stumbles and low days but things do improve...it is a difficult road but there is plenty of hope.

    Peter

  • This gives me so much hope for the future.  I have just had my path results back and I have to have radio and chemotherapy and my biggest fear is the side effects and not being able to eat properly afterwards.  

    Hugs

    Hazel x

  • Hi Beth

    As others have said it is difficult to get your mojo back for eating after treatment.  At this stage it does not really matter how you get the calories in, just try to do it.  Calories = body recovering quicker.  Forget healthy eating for the time being, you just need the food in whatever form you can accept.

    I started with soups and ready meals as these were far easier to eat than home cooking.  Over time I have moved onto more home cooked meals, but there is still a limited diet I can accept due to swallow and dry mouth.  Now my go to foods are "sloppy" foods like pasta and pies with lots of gravey. I also hit the chocolate eclairs and jam & cream donuts for a high calorie intake.  Sod the cholesterol!!!

    Peter
    See my profile for more details of my convoluted journey
  • Yes I think I'm overthinking! Thankyou Peter.