I've been told by an ENT consultant, that he wants to carry out a "Rigid Pharyngoscopy and Oesophagoscopy" under general aneasthetic and that "I've told the patient about the 1 in 100 change of oesophageal perforation". He also mentioned that there's a chance I could lose my airway during such a procedure.
I understand the clear need for investigating the hypopharnx in more detail as I have some very concerning symptoms. However, I am nervous that the consultant did not take my specific risks seriously.
I'am diagnosed with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder. It has been shown to affect my oesphagus, and is also known to cause fragile tissues throughout the body that can tear easily. I cannot open my mouth that wide due to the muscles trying to hold the tendons together (didn't have a chance to tell him this). I have lived on liquids for the last 10 years due to oesophageal dysmotilty due to EDS.
The constultant was not familiar with the Ehlers Danlos condition and didn't give us much time at all to explain the issues in the throat area I have beyond that of the recent worrying symptoms (those recent new symptoms being lump in throat on right, some blood, pain on right, issues on barium swallow).
The procedure would be carried out in my small local hospital. This is another worry as I've found the smaller non-university hospitals to not have heard of EDS.
Clearly a thorough investigation is needed, but are there any other options in such circumstances. He quickly said there was not but wouldn't discuss. I would feel more confortable if he was more experienced or sympathetic to the condition which I feel puts me at further risk of preformation.
Can I ask for a second oppinion? Are there any options for me to discuss as I don't think I will get a chance to see him again before they ask me to go in.
Thanks Dani. That was what my wife suggested too at the same time. Ultimately we will have to choose one hospital ofcourse, but I want to have the scan results first. Likelihood is it will be UCLH. The happy complication will be if the London scans are clear!
Had Mri (with contrast) of head and neck last Friday in London UCLH. Managed to put off local hospital from doing rigid pharyngoscopy by telling them I had flu/cold, but they are now chasing to do procedure.
I would ideally like to see what the MRi results are first, but they are not through yet. Its been nearly a week. I presume the results go to ENT doctor first and they write - how long does that generally take?
- how long does that generally take?
We are usually told 2 weeks. Often it’s longer I’m afraid.
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
Coordinator said that the MRi results were normal! Great news, but what do we do now? The London UCLH hospital hasn't mentioned any further investigations, the local hospital said MRi's won't show anything unless its large, so wanted to to a rigid pharyngoscopy, but I didn't have confidence they appreciated the extra risk with my pre-existing condition.
The London doctor is a Registrar in the ENT UCLH cancer hospital, the local hospital one is a ENT consultant, if that makes any difference.
I'll ask when the UCLH doctors call's later if they feel there's any need for further investigations, but if anyone here has a view, please let me know.
MRI will show a lesion at around 1 cm
If nothing is evident and you can’t accept UCLH recommendations for no further investigation ( if that’s what they say) then your only avenue is to find somebody you trust to do the scope hoping that it will find nothing and finally put your mind at rest.
I suppose the last investigation would be a PET/CT but I’ve no idea if any centre does them privately. Even then you would need a clinician’s referral
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
Is that 1cm or 1mm? Would the dye not show irritation even if the legion was smaller than 1cm? Does it depend on the slices sizes of the MRi (is this something I can ask?).
Also would the PET/CT be done before the scope thingy?
Sorry to ask so many questions - want to get it in my head what to ask when doctor phones later.
Is that 1cm or 1mm? Would the dye not show irritation even if the legion was smaller than 1cm? Does it depend on the slices sizes of the MRi (is this something I can ask?).
Ask.
Also would the PET/CT be done before the scope thingy?
Not generally. You get a PET if cancer has already been diagnosed , especially if it’s large or they can’t find the primary but they do find it in the lymph nodes. It’s to check for possible other sites of spread. It’s an expensive individually tailored scan involving a radioactive tracer.
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
Thanks, I've sent an email to the Imaging dept (FAO the radiologist) to ask what size issue it would detect and what size the slices taken were. I can but ask, even if they tell me to bugger off!
My only other recourse I guess is to get a private ENT appointment to help us weigh up the risk/benefit of the rigid scope thingy.
Doesn't the NHS offer a second oppinion option? Does that have to happen in the same local hospital?
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