I have been reading on the forum for some time about HPV status and wondered if someone could explain a bit more to me. It did not feature in my cancer diagnosis so that is why I do not have any knowledge. I googled it and how it affected head and neck cancers and the language was a bit too scientific for me so am not greatly enlightened.
I did glean that most of us have HPV in our system and that it can lie dormant for years and does not necessarily cause cancer and that there are different sub types. Then I got a bit lost with the rest of the explanation.
Can anyone explain in day to day language the importance of the HPV status in the cancer diagnosis and if there are different levels and their significance in the diagnosis? Is HPV the actual cause of the cancer or is it just a factor?
Thanks for helping to enlighten me.
Lyn
Hi lyn
HPV comes in many types. The ones that are important for oral cancer are HPV 16 and 18
They are the cause of the cancer
They are important because HPV driven cancer is very susceptible to radiation and cure rates high, recurrences rare. That’s it in a nutshell.
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
I’ll add
HPV infection is fairly ubiquitous in people and most of us shake off the virus in a couple of years. If it isn’t removed by the body it has a long latency period ( the period from infection to disease) typically around 10/12 years I think but as long as 30 plus has been quoted. The virus transforms normal cells into cancer cells.
More info
HPV cancers have a protein called P16 which can be picked up by a special stain when the tumour is biopsied. That’s what the histopathologist does in diagnosing the cancer. Some hospitals actually look for HPV dna but that’s more expensive and P16 is usually sufficient.
Most P16 is found in tumours of the oropharynx. I don’t know if it’s actually looked for routinely in oral tumours but I might be wrong.
Any oncologists here?
Another thing. Cisplatin which is the chemo drug of choice is like a radio sensitiser in that it improves the efficacy of the radiotherapy by around 5% so anybody who has to miss chemo for one reason or another really shouldn’t worry. It’s the RT that does the job.
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
Wow Dani has explained very well, I knew very little of that. Personally I was never given, and never asked for or was interested in, my HPV status, the same as I didn't want to hear staging details. Ignorance was bliss for me, all I wanted to know was what my likely outcome would be and they said "complete cure" which was enough for me. Not saying for a minute that it's wrong to want detail, some do and so it's right for them, I didn't.
Metastatic SCC diagnosed 8th October 2013. Modified radical neck dissection November, thirty-five radiotherapy fractions with 2xCisplatin chemo Jan/Feb 2014. Recurrence on larynx diagnosed July 2020 so salvage laryngectomy in September 2020.
Hi Mike. I always loved stuff like this and was very interested in cancer therapy in dogs and cats when I was working,though we never had a hundredth of the resources available to us. I never imagined I’d be lying under a linear accelerator myself one day. Such is life, eh?
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
Thanks for the info Dani that is really helpful. I had a lot of misinformation about HPV prior to your explanation.
Yes Mike I understand what you mean about not needing too much info just wanting to get on with things. I didn’t want too much detail either. I just put my trust in my wonderful medical team and they didn’t let me down.
Best wishes
Lyn
Sophie66
Thanks for the info Dani. Much appreciated.
I was actually told without even asking, but it was presented to me as a positive thing so I’ve no complaints,
I have to say that my team have been absolutely brilliant throughout. I have a surgeon who makes me feel that I’m her only patient in the world, and a team who have been good humoured, attentive and encouraging throughout, but also very honest.
Ten days away from my 12 week check up
Hi Mark
You sound like you have a great team. Mine have been equally great but I had the advantage of going through all this BC (before Covid)
!2 weeks is a great milestone
PET/CT to look forward to.
XX
Dani
Base of tongue cancer. T2N0M0 6 weeks Radiotherapy finished January 2019
Having had my first diagnosis BC (like it!) and my second during it I have to say my team and my trearment were equally brilliant both times, if anything they were more attentive last year because they all knew I'd just lost my wife. I love them all to bits.
Metastatic SCC diagnosed 8th October 2013. Modified radical neck dissection November, thirty-five radiotherapy fractions with 2xCisplatin chemo Jan/Feb 2014. Recurrence on larynx diagnosed July 2020 so salvage laryngectomy in September 2020.
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