hi! my dad is 60 and was diagnosed with eopshagael cancer in february. at stage 3 i believe?? (sounds crazy that im speculating- but we've not been allowed in to any of his appointments since covid and when he found out he had cancer he shredded the letter) he does not talk in stages. but i do know its the stage where the lymph nodes are flinging it around the body.
he has been fortunate enough to qualify for treatment chemo/immunotherapy/a stent- and a 2nd stent pending - because unfortunately his heeds to connect more to his stomach. they should be calling this week hopefully but its bad timing because i cant really see anything happening before christmas. he can drink and eat a custard/soup but he brings it back up and also his appetite is really poor. hes losing 8kg a week. he was 3xl now hes a medium. its so sad. we are so desperate to build him back up. but aslong as hes hydrated the hospital dont see him as an emergency case for a 2nd stent.
he wants to die now. all he lived for was eating/working/driving/buying dvds and the prospect or retiring-he cant eat, can no longer work, too weak to drive now, sees no point to add to his dvd collection and most likely won't make it to see or enjoy retirement. he won't reminisce about anything because hes too sad- but he cant look to the future either. its like sharing a room with a ghost. my auntie recommended he speak to macmillan but he does not want to speak about how he feels. its a generational think, i know people have broken down these walls but he is never going to be the type to get on the phone or computer and talk to anyone. he's really stubborn. if we press him too much he breaks down in anger- and we have to be careful incase he has a heart attack.
covid has stopped a lot of people from ticking things off their lists of what they've always wanted to do and experience. we was able to take a trip to great yarmouth in october and it did him the world of good. he was sprinting along the streets quicker than any of us. was even able to eat a bit of fish. but since we came back hes gone downhill really fast. feels there's nothing to look forward to now. everyday is torture for him-- ive never realised before how every other advert on tv is food. i cry so much for him, food was his everything. i feel there's nothing i can do or say to him to make him feel any better. all i try to do is invest in his everyday comfort (new warm clothes that fit him) but he screams at us for wasting money on him.
our perfect situation right now would be he gets called for the stent as a day patient (because with his last stent he had to be rushed to hospital severely hydrated, had to be stabilised for a few days until he was fit for the procedure so he was in there nearly a week in total--- he said never again.) / he gets a bit of an appetite back, he can have an extremely small taste of things he used to love and we make delicious new things for him to try soups etc. /restrictions ease up so we can take him on a few mini breaks (im thinking an air b&b somewhere just for a change of scenery) but hes just so weak and dizzy now. he refuses to walk anymore either. and i know ill NEVER understand how he feels inside, but i do have a Stepper which i bought myself to do more steps in lockdown. it works even if you're lying back in a chair u can just move your feet up and down and it has good resistance for working your muscles but he won't even do one. screams at me if i pester him about it. but i know if you dont use it you lose it but he has 0 motivation to even try to improve things. which i can understand if you've lost literally everything you lived for in one foul swoop.
anyone else going through anything similar they'd like to talk about or have any advice? thank you for listening xxx
Hi there,
I'm so sorry to hear your dad and you are going through such an incredibly tough time. I can't claim to have exactly the same experience or even any good advice but I thought I'd share a little of my experience just in case it helps. I understand your dad must be devastated and going through grief for all he's lost, life probably won't be the same again but it was so uplifting to hear how lively he was when you managed to have a trip out, he obviously found a new lease if life that day and hopefully will again even though he feels hopeless and angry now. I was diagnosed with stage 3 in March 2018 by April I couldn't keep a smoothie or soup down so had to have a nasal gastro tube fitted. This mustn't be an option for you dad? I got used to it surprisingly quickly and it was a relief not to have to try to eat knowing it was going to come up again. I haven't had a stent so don't know what that's like. I haven't told many people this but because I couldn't swallow but craved the taste of food, I used to buy mountains of crisps and Doritos and suck the flavour off them! It was a way of still having some pleasure from flavour. I'd end up with a bowl of soggy crisps afterwards but it helped and I quite enjoyed looking for the strongest flavours and hardest crisps I could find. Some actually went down because they dissolved (eg. Skips prawn cocktail). Maybe worth suggesting a try? Also I used to buy lots of hard lollies to suck on, my favourite was toffee flavour. Sorry if this sounds silly but it helped me. A few weeks into chemo I could swallow some soft foods again, maybe that's something to look forward to. I then had an operation and radiotherapy and although it's been such a long journey I'm still enjoying certain things in life. I'd love to go to the sea or camping but this year has been so limiting. I really hope you manage to help your dad find some comfort and pleasure in life again. There's definitely a chance the feelings of huge loss and pointlessness he's feeling will change but it can't be forced as you know. Wishing you all the best and I hope things gets a bit easier day by day. I nearly didn't say anything because my experience is different but wanted to try give you a bit of support and hope.
Hi there Bernbe! Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to me and share your experiences.
This is my first post and I’ve not ever spoken to other people who have the same cancer as dad so already feel less alone from you reaching out. Truly thank you. What you’ve said about the crisps seems like a fantastic idea and surprised we’ve not thought of it. Knowing my dad tho he’ll probably feel like just sucking the flavour would be a waste bless him lol but oh my gosh he completely deserves to do it!! Im defo going to buy him some strong flavourer crisps and see how he gets on. He’s had skips because like you say they dissolve but hes going off them a bit. Shame they dont do more flavours. But hell probably be into them again in a few weeks we tend to go full circle with things.
Lollipops is a great idea too. I think he would like tofffee alot. Im really glad you replied as like i say its really comforting to know you were diagnosed at the same stage and that although youve been on a long journey you are finding pleasure in life again. I want that for dad so much. Just need him to hang in their a little long because the hospital seem comfident a 2nd stent will really enable him to hold the food down. Then we can work on building him back up! Some more trips out would be amazing. A change of scenery was a real tonic for him.
Just wondered aswell have you ever had the milk drinks fortisips or ensure prescribed for nourishment? He cannot stomach these drinks at all. They make him feel ever so sick. He hates every flavour now lol :( which i suppose is to be expected when youve been asked to prioritise these drinks 3 times a day since march. did you ever have any experience with these and feel the same way? We keep trying to add them into things like coffee and make milkshakes with them but he can always taste that they are in there lol. Its such a shame.
Thanks so much again and best wishes xxx
Oh I'm so relieved my reply didn't seem too simple but the simplest things can help you feel human again when the basic pleasures in life seem to have been taken away. I loved sucking crisps! McCoys Ridges were good for strong flavours, there's loads to explore and so many lolly flavours to try. Yes I had the fortisips too but they did make me feel sick. I just kept one by my side and had a sip now and then rather than try get them down in one go. I felt I had to try though because getting the calories down any other way was impossible. If I can think of anything else I tried I'll let you know (meringue nests with squirty cream were a treat for me, they dissolve too, I used to only eat them at Xmas but I don't think I can eat them this year as I overdosed on them when I couldn't eat anything else!) Things change all the time so hopefully you'll find different ways of coping as time goes on and your dad will get his hopes and strength up. I'm so glad I replied, even if it just helped you feel not so alone. He's really lucky to have you being so keen to help. I kind of understand your position too. My partner died of cancer 15yrs ago and there were times I couldn't do anything to help it was so frustrating being so helpless but I know he appreciated me being there underneath all his pain and hopelessness as I'm sure your dad does you. Remember to look after and treat yourself too.
Hi Sunflower
Sorry to hear about your dad it seems like he is finding it hard to accept this horrible disease. You’re dad is lucky to have such a caring daughter. It is a big worry to you. The hospital offering your dad treatment is promising. He sounds like my husband he also would not dream of talking to a counsellor or anybody about how he feels I wish he did. He also gets impatient but then I guess they have a lot on their plate and not feeling great as well. It is a worry for you that he is not eating and getting no nutritional food.
My husband was diagnosed with squamous cell cancer on 19 November 2018 T4N1M0 .He was told it wasn’t curable but treatable. We asked for a stent but the hospital didn’t think a stent was a good idea I guess every case is different. He was also unable to eat and the hospital put him on a feeding pump at night this was a relief as I knew he was getting all the nutrition from the feed. He then had to have quiet a few throat dilations after which he started eating puréed food at first but now he is eating normal again. He used to enjoy ice cream and full fat cream on his porridge.
I hope your dad finds the strength to carry on my husband is still with me and it’s over two years since he was diagnosed. I am not saying it’s easy and we have bad days and good.
Hope you’re dad don’t have to wait to long to hear from the hospital.
My thoughts are with you. Milie xx
Hello Sunflower,
It is a really difficult thing to write your first post on a site like this one, but I am really pleased that you chose to do this. I know this is the last place you would like to find yourself, yet it is definitely the one place where you will receive support and understanding. I can't begin to imagine how difficult it must be for you to watch your Dad waste away and not accept any help from you, when you are desperately trying to do everything you can to assist to make him well again. Yet Dad has so many of his own emotions that he seems to be struggling with, the diagnosis has obviously been a total shock to him and what ever it is he has been told by way of diagnosis seems to have left him believing that there is little hope. (am i right in my understanding of your words?)
As you do not have the information on the type of oesophageal cancer that Dad has, it may make it even more difficult for you to get your head around? Since my husbands diagnosis I have spent as much time as possible researching the adenocarcinoma tumour and what we can do to fight against it. I don't know how you are coping with the knowledge that your Dad wants to die now, I think you are so brave to reach out here, and I hope that you will get several more posts of support and advice.
Have you had anymore news?
Dal was given a supplement drink which is called Fresubin, this was prescribed by the dietician and he did not find it either too sweet or sickly, although in fairness as he could not eat at one point and he knew he needed to get the calories down, (As Bernbe has also mentioned) he drank it anyway, 4 a day.
Dal was diagnosed T3N3M1 with secondaries in liver, lung and lymph nodes, advised that his prognosis was months, or months and months. Even now we are aware that his specific condition even with treatment has a poor prognosis of just over a year, but he is a fighter and he has so far amazed his oncologist on how well he is reacting... He never had a stent, we focused on smoothies made with foods high in antioxidants, we done a huge amount of research and he was fed things that previously he had hated, but he knew why, and he did it.
I hope that your Dad can find his why, I hope too that he realises that although you are not the person who is ill, you are going through this with him, if you are able to talk openly together about your true feelings surrounding his diagnosis, I would hope it would help you both move forwards and combat it together.. I know the talking side of things is not for everyone, but how ever you manage this together, I wish you the very best of luck
Lowe'
Hi Sunflower, your dad sounds exactly like my Husband, my husband was diagnosed 3 months ago, he has had a stent put in, as he could not even drink a glass of water, he found it quite uncomfortable, but managed to eat liquefied food, soups etc., he had he’s 1st.Chemo nearly 3 weeks ago, a very very strong one, 4 days later, he was sent to hospital, with dehydration, Anaemia, low blood pressure, and very loose stools with blood. He spent a week in hospital. I have been married to my husband for nearly 54 years, We have been the most terrible time, we lost both our sons with Cystic Fibrosis, both within 5 years of each other, one 10 th December, the other 27th December, and Now my husband has given up, he has loads of hobbies, we used to go out for rides, and even before COVID we would go away in our touring caravan, he shouts at me, if I tell him to have a drink, or talk to Macmillan, I ordered purée food from Oak farm foods, he eats mini meals, but never hungry, always tired, no motivation at all, he used to ride his bike 30-40 miles no problem. I cannot help him at all, he loved his food as well, curries, Chinese, I would make him cakes, not anymore, even find it hard eating myself now. So I do know where you are coming from xxxx
Hi Sunflower, sorry to hear about your dad. It's hard when someone shuts you out, they often think they are protected their loved ones. I was 57 years old and was diagnosed with T3 N2 M0 staging back in October of 2016. I had been a smoker for about 45 years and went from 15 stones to 8 stones in about 6 months. I was devastated by the diagnosis and treatment offered. I had a look on cancer research UK website and the outcome didn't look great. However I decided not to have chemotherapy and radiotherapy prior to the surgery. I had cancer cells in 5 out of the 9 lymph nodes that were removed along with the oesophagus and the top third of my stomach. Prior to the surgery I couldn't even swallow the ensure milkshakes. I was juicing green leafy vegetables and a bit of apple for flavour just to get some nutrition in. It's was a long road for recovery for me, but worth it. Here I am 4 years later and I am enjoying eating again. I have gained about 5 stones in the last 4 years and yesterday I had a proper Christmas dinner. I never thought I would be able to enjoy food and life again. I am enjoying life again,it was worth having the surgery and having the opportunity to live again. It brought me and my wife even closer and it brought me and my sisters and brothers closer. I am the youngest of 9 at the ripe young age of 61. I hope your dad changes his mind, there is plenty to live for. Kind regards Frank.
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