Weakness

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Hi Everyone!

Well, after yesterday we I thought Jay had turned a corner and was starting to get a bit better, but it feels like two steps forward and three back. He's gone to bed and told me that he feels really weak. He said he feels tired but not a `sleepy tired` just physically tired in other words f**kd.  I keep asking him if he's ok and he says he is, but I don't know if he is and he gets really bad tempered with me because I keep asking him. He says if he felt really ill he would tell me so but i don't know if he would and so I just need to take his word for it that he is ok.He is on Xeloda (Capecitabine) and Oxipalatin as you probably all know from the number of times I come on here. I am really beginning to worry now because I know it's his choice, but he says he doesn't know if he could go through anymore cycles of this. I really don't want him to stop and would prefer he at least try another way in maybe they will alter his dosage and reduce it somewhat but then again will that stop the effectiveness of the chemotherapy. He was really doing so well in his first 3 cycles, and it is so hard to see him like this as he was doing so well. His arms are beginning to look really scrawny again and he has lots of loose skin around the tops of his arms (think `bingo wings` but a lot looser) he's just not my Jay just now and I just don't know what to do. I took his temperature again and it's still normal. He has started as I said eating again and he finished this course of tablets this morning.  He's gone back to eating fruit again and has been eating oranges and drinking orange juice. He's just not his happy go lucky self just now and his voice is really low and it's as if he is straining to speak and he says his mouth is really dry I got him some alcohol-free mouth wash but don't know if he's using it. I'm sorry to come back on here again with this but my mind is going into overdrive again I've even told new people on here not to think they are being a burden and who am I to say that? when I'm coming on here feeling like they do. Can anyone tell me the week the person is not on treatment does the chemotherapy still keep on working? I know that may sound daft to some of you but as I said my mind is going into overdrive again and I just need some reassurance. Thanks. 

Vicky x

  • Bless you it’s so hard.
    Can you do something good this weekend. A break away from thinking about it. Could just be a movie night at home with a few treats that would take both of your minds off the stress of it all. 
    There were things that I really enjoyed and bless my hubby he watched the romcoms! It’s definitely not his thing but he said he liked it I think he enjoyed me liking it 

    Ann
     ‍Art

  • Thanks Artsie!,

    And bless you too for your kind words. He goes for his Covid booster jag tomorrow we had to reschedule that from last time because he had just had his Oxi infusion and were advised against getting it within 48 hours of that so the only date I could get was tomorrow (today) 5th November. His oncologist said it is very important that he keeps this appointment and that he does get his winter covid booster. We are going across to the caravan on Sunday so that will be at least a day out for us as we got an email from the site to say that there was some very adverse weather in Argyll and all parks were notifying owners to possibly go and make sure their van is ok in case of any damage. Our park seems to have escaped it according to the park manager, but Jay wants to go over anyway just to be sure.  Thanks again Artsie. Take Care. 

    Vicky x

  • Cant really offer any re assurance other than to say that from personal experience he really does feel f***ed. Its not the same as tired, its an all consuming fatigue from which the only escape is sleep its mentally as well as physically draining, treatment is all about how much you can endure, for me 4 cycles was enough, I know I couldnt have done any more. You cant do any more than you are doing, the rest is upto him. On a positive the feeling of overwhelming fatigue soon goes after treatment has finished   

  • ps....errr im afraid to suggest you are being a burden is ludicrous, you need as much support as your husband and from what ive read you are doing a brilliant job, and yes my understanding is that the chemo is still working away upto 6 weeks after active trearment

  • Thank you so much Dom. Always feel a bit better when I come on here and someone more or less tells me to `get a grip` and I'm doing all I can to help him. I replied here to Sue289 I think she's called? and I mentioned he went for his covid booster today and it was like a `marathon` for him just getting out the car and walking into the vaccination centre which was only yards away from the car whereas before this would have been no problem to him. Yes, he sleeps a lot just now but with your speaking from experience, seems this is all he can do. I think it has just been because he done so well in the last 3 cycles and this 4th one has really floored him. It was at the end of the 2nd one they upped the dosage for him because he was tolerating it well so if he does want to carry on, they may need to reduce the dosage for him again we'll find out this coming Thursday when he sees the oncologist again and plus, he went for a CT scan so hopefully he'll get the results of that- something we're NOT looking forward to. He's just not had a break health wise since he retired just over 3 years ago from first having a diagnosis or type 2 diabetes and then then cancer surfacing at the end of 2020 and from what we thought getting rid of it back in January to having it resurface in May/June again. It's just been an absolute hellish 2 years. Thanks again.

    Vicky 

  • Hi Vicky.

    no it wasn’t me who called. I’m sorry I’ve just seen this post, I’ve not been on here for a few days. I hope you’ve had a good day at the caravan and Jay is picking up a bit. Thinking of you both

    all the best

    sue

  • Hi Sue 

    How are you? No I meant that you were on here speaking to me. If you've seen my posts you will have seen the state I am in- sorry that sounds so harsh but I'm really bitter just now. We went to see the oncologist last Thursday as I think I posted about going to and he has told him his CT has shown a spread to his pelvis and a slight showing in his lung. I am absolutely beside myself and cannot stop crying and just cannot function or focus on anything else other than this. they have stopped his chemo just now because he has fluid retention in his legs and the oncologist sent him away with water tablets to reduce this and we go back and see him again a week this Thursday to find out if he will be well enough to go back on chemo. His kidney function has shown a slight reduction not much but enough for him to consider not putting Jay back on the chemo for now and this is why he is on the diuretics. He is just so tired just now. Going to bed at 8/9 oclock at night and going for naps during the day this has never been him but then again one of the side effects of these diuretics is they make you tired- and rush to the loo!! He's just not himself at all and I just want him back to how he was before all this happened. Some days I used to see him far enough but now, the thought of not seeing him at all is unbearable. 

    Vicky xx

  • Hi Vicky

    Sorry again for not replying to you sooner. I’m new to this site really and find it quite difficult to navigate. Plus I don’t come on every day. I’m sorry you were feeling so down the other day. I have no experience of chemotherapy or the side effects or the other drugs used to treat those side effects. I wonder is there anyone you can speak to for information? Do you have a contact nurse for example or what about the helplines on here? Even if it’s someone who can just listen to your worries? Sometimes talking can be such a help.  I hope you feel a bit better today and that Jay is too. Look after yourself x Kind regards, Sue xx